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The real question would be: are you in favor of transferring players born in 2020 or later? To get the same benefits as residents. If not, the transfers aren't in line with moral and gaming standards. Do you understand what I mean?

Apulus, I’ll be honest — I didn’t understand your counterproposal. In my opinion, accounts created after 2020 are, in many cases, even stronger than the oldest ones. On DE 15, players from 2020 have reached levels 250–300. On INT 6 (launched in 2024), my friend PAPPAS has over 200 levels and powerful skills.

That is why I propose including a question in the survey about attitudes toward transfers on INT 5, without unnecessary and irrelevant details.

Official data shows that 12 transfers were transfered on INT 5. 2 transfers were made on INT 6. About 4 or 5 users were rejected due to the suspension of transfers. A few people wanted to join INT 5 and are speaking about it publicly.

So we’re talking about 25 users, specific players. I don’t want to speculate here, but it’s likely that if CRATR hadn’t changed its policy, every player would have joined INT 5. Even out of curiosity. This move was so fast, so spontaneous, that the avalanche of transfers drew in more and more people. Players from INT 2-4 would likely have joined as well, because in two years, no other server has seen so many accounts transferred in such a short time.

I believe that creating a poll (even if it isn’t binding for CRATR) will reveal the players’ true sentiments. If interest in INT 5 is this high (over 25 people), it’s hard to believe that there’s a massive number of people opposed to transfers on INT 5.

In my opinion that if either side—whether supporters or opponents—doesn’t want such a poll/survey, it means they’re actually afraid of the result.

Only such a survey will clear CRATR of allegations of a lack of transparency in transfers, as Vendetta7 has written about at length.

@Slach

I think you're speaking very sensibly and rationally, but I think you're being too naive.

Apulus has been terrorizing INT 5 for years. Look at the guilds he's declared war on:

https://int5.knightfight.moonid.net/clan/13/?uac=4

All the players protesting are those who play with Apulus in the guild. They were destroying anyone who created an INT 5 account after 2023. Apulus had a lead of over three years back then. I can tell you in private what he did with a large group of players who started playing in 2023. The same goes for his guild. They will never mentally accept that this time is over. They blame CRATR for being inactive for many years, focusing on INT 6 and 7, and not even opening a session on INT 5. Yes, they blame CRATR, not themselves. If they took INT 5 seriously, none of the accounts that were transferred to INT 5 would have stood a chance against them.

CRATR completely fails to understand that this is a political conflict, not a substantive one. Instead of distancing themselves from both sides and acting according to their agreed-upon plan, they are participating in this war and openly siding with Apulus, ignoring and spitting in the face of a vast number of players.

That's why CRATR won't conduct any polls. They're not a "neutral judge," but a fighting side. Yes, the administrators are taking a stand against ordinary players.

Patti - if CVD is the one that's handling this, can you get him to just bloody well hurry up and sort this shit out.

Fwiffo/Azlig just needs a list of the details to run the scripts right? - the same as was handled for the original transfer requests via tickets EG ID goes from A->B.

This should not take this long to sort out - the forum is just turning into a toxic wasteground and understandably people are now getting fed up.

Some-one on the CRATR side needs to show some innitative here! (and as CVD does nothing but post some crappy free coin givaways I don't think he gives a shit really about sorting this out).

P_B, if you think that deleting the accounts of honest players from INT 5 and INT 6 will end the conflict, you're seriously mistaken. This will only be the beginning, because we will never forget such a disgusting thing. I don't know if you have an INT 7 account, but Apulus and Nimoe are being dragged through the mud there. They click surrender every day. And we will continue to do so until INT 7's end, so their cries will only get louder.