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On the battlefield, you can also compete against real players—you simply have to select them.

However, the likelihood of them being "unequipped " is extremely low, which is why most player prefer the zombies.

Ethalia,

I'd like to clarify one thing. I generally agree that if people from opposing political sides have the same opinion on the same topic, it means they're talking about obvious things that most KnightFight players understand in the same way.

I believe discussions should be approached honestly and without prejudice. In fact, it was Apulus who dominated this thread with his comment.

Apulus
Posted Feb. 22, 2026, 2:42 p.m.

I would completely eliminate the battlefield

We were supposed to be discussing "improvements" to BattleGround, but Apulus redirected the stream of comments towards opening a classic server. So it's clear that he's a person with "personality", real character, and his own opinions. And such people should be respected. I try to look at Apulus objectively. I think this player has not only flaws but also strengths. He's capable of forming a guild, gathering a community of other players around him, and generally makes an interesting opponent on the server. Thanks to him, there's more activity and interaction, and I consider that an advantage. He's definitely not some sleeping knight who logs into his account, collects his gold, and logs out.

So, greetings here to Apulus! 😁

I totally agree. I would be interested in a server with no BS and you can't buy stats right at the begining.

@Aeglos

In Int 5 I am only lvl 45 after a few years,

Server INT 5 – Level 60 ( approx 2 years):

Few battle server matches; standard equipment. The account has never gone into the negative, either—I keep the balance steady. But leveling up is a grind, and when I compare this account to my level 80 account on Server INT 7, I actually prefer the one on Server 5 at this lower level.

If a server like that were to be launched—without battle servers and without premium weapons—I wonder how it would be funded?

After all, every new server incurs extra fees, with the cost varying based on the number of players.

If such a thing were ever to happen, the experience points gained from missions should be bumped up a bit—perhaps using a tiered system based on reaching certain levels:

Up to level 30: up to 5 XP

Up to level 60: up to 7 XP

From level 90 or 100 onwards: up to 10 XP, and so on.

Currently, the maximum is 5 XP, regardless of level. If the premium package were eliminated, extending the duration of missions (currently 60 minutes) would also be worth considering.

Without such a leveling system, it would take a very long time to level up, and I doubt players would stay engaged for that long. Therefore, an alternative to the combat server and premium options is needed if one wishes to launch a server without those features.

Since most players are familiar with premium gameplay, premium weapons, and the combat server—along with the associated advantages over standard gameplay—I doubt a server without these features would remain attractive in the long run; especially given that progression on existing servers was significantly easier thanks to the battlefield and premium gameplay.

Still, it would be worth a try—for instance, via a test server.

Now, whoever has crystals levels up their character faster.

But look at it this way: those players also get bored sooner than the ones who don't level up as quickly. The latter have something to work towards for a longer period.

@NocnySokol

Why is Nimoe defending BG so much? :D You like it? play it on any of the 60+ servers available :)

Please don't spread falsehoods here. We've been down this road before—the difference between what I actually wrote and what some people make of it. It’s a tiresome topic, and I’d rather not revisit it.

I’m not defending anything here; I’m simply listing the pros and cons of such a plan. These games are offered for free, but every server incurs additional monthly fees, and a small operation has to be able to shoulder that cost.

Personally, I couldn't care less whether or not such a server without battlegrounds is actually set up at some point. You either participate or you don't—that’s my personal view. For many players, INT 7 was the last game world anyway.

If you had followed what I wrote more closely, you’d see quite clearly that I play almost all my characters without—or barely with—the battleground system. I play on the battlefield when I feel like it and have the time; otherwise, I don’t. I mentioned this in my other post as well.

If I were the kind of battleground enthusiast you make me out to be, I would certainly have characters with much higher levels to show for it—my game characters would look completely different.

As for the point about having 1,000 players on a server without battlegrounds: that might have been the case when these games first came out, but games age and get replaced by newer ones. Player numbers drop. That’s completely normal, and yes, the old days are never coming back.

You always have to weigh the pros and cons, and that’s what I’m doing here objectively. That doesn’t mean I’m a "defender" of the battleground system, as you accused me of being earlier. However, battlegrounds generate steady revenue, and I’m looking at that aspect from the operators' perspective, not my own. ^^

Well, Equipment, premium accounts and MC bought at the start of the server to boost stats.
Like what are admins CONSTANTLY doing that is improving the game so much and needs such a huge maintanace to 'fund' the server? NOTHING :)

You see it from a player's perspective. However, neither you nor I—as the "end users"—can really judge just how much effort goes into maintaining and developing a game like that.

And yes, continued development is necessary to keep up in the market. Not everyone is into retro stuff. ^^

The idea of BG was to let people fight between players from other servers and give a little experience boost to high level players and easier start for new players to catch up with the rest.
There were plenty 'alive' players to fight with. I was actually doing most fights with other 'live' players than zombies.

As I’ve already mentioned in another one of my posts, it’s likely also about keeping players engaged with the game for longer, since there’s a time limit for completing those 400 battles—or 200 or 100 battles. And there were certainly more players on the battlefield back in the day—though I can’t really judge that, since I don’t play on the battlefield very often.

As the number of real players declined over time—which is perfectly normal—zombie bots were introduced.

Had none of this happened—or had the game not been expanded to include this additional battlefield mode—KF likely wouldn't exist today; and just consider how long KF, or even MG, have been around. That is remarkable. Other games don't last that long.

Now 140 lvl in 1 year from the start of the server? :D hahaha... that's years of playing old style.

Sure, they reach level 140 within a year—but with a weak build, comparable to the skill build of an old level 60–70 account from the pre-Battleground era.

This happens because, upon returning from the Battlegrounds, they sometimes skip two or three levels—levels they actually needed to develop a solid build. That’s ground they can’t make up later. So, they power-level their accounts while their build falls by the wayside. It’s actually amusing to watch. To correct or adjust their build after the fact, they would have to let their accounts plunge deep into the negative.

Now 140 lvl in 1 year from the start of the server? :D hahaha... that's years of playing old style.

And I’d like to address this point personally:

On the one hand, quite a few people criticize my accounts because—even after several years—they have relatively low levels, especially in the era of the Battleground. Because of this low level, they consider my accounts mediocre or even poor, since I—with the exception of the account on INT 7—rarely participate in Battleground activities; instead, I focus more on developing skills than on rapid leveling itself.

On the other hand, many of you actually wish you could play this way, because the Battleground becomes boring for you over time.

That is remarkable !

Because if such a server were to actually exist one day, the very people who want it so badly would have to play exactly the way I already do.

And that’s the really funny thing about it.

I don't agree it'll be boring. There wlll be smaller level gaps between players which will increaste the fights frequency.

Yes, there will be smaller level differences, and it will be even fairer if there's no premium play, no premium weapons, and no exchanging Mooncoins for gold.

Then it will really only depend on how often you play and how wisely you use your gold to develop your characters.

That’s exactly it.

@Doom

I wonder whether this initial enthusiasm would last in the long run.

No, that wouldn't work, because most players likely want to see faster progress rather than something that drags on for years—which is exactly what would happen without the battleground server.

Building up a character without battlegrounds takes years; I have several low-level characters that I’ve been leveling up primarily through missions for years.

On a server without battlegrounds, however, one could increase mission duration from 60 to 100 minutes or boost the XP gained per mission—which is currently capped at a maximum of 5 XP regardless of level. That would be a start, at least.

In principle, there’s nothing wrong with such a server, but I find the enthusiasm for it interesting. After all, you can play that way on a server with battlegrounds, too. Ultimately, it’s just a matter of ego—whether or not you fall behind the others.

I understand your surprise that the discussion about improving the Battlefield has shifted towards opening a classic server without the Battlefield. However, this is the real sentiment among active KnightFight players. Before the launch of INT 7, there was a discussion about the changes on the forum, and this topic had already appeared, which means it's a lasting trend.

Your assumption that players calling for the opening of a classic server have never built a high-level knight is incorrect. My friend Waldan71 has already is about 100 lvl on INT 7 and we're only talking about new servers. Furthermore, Waldan already had an account over level 100 on the classic server, which was a huge achievement at the time, as he built it based on just a few missions and fights on the node server. Here's Waldan's 2012 entry under the nickname Waliwan:

https://kfinfo.blogspot.com/2012/12/wielka-bitwa-polsko-niemiecka.html

Besides, let's not exaggerate that leveling up at a high level takes 2-3 months. Let's look at how much EXP missions grant.

At level 30, the missions grant about 30 EXP per day, and the required EXP is 300, so jumping from level 30 to 31 takes about 10 days, or 7 days in practice, because there will be more EXP from fighting on the home server.

At level 50, about 40 EXP per day, and the required EXP is 500, so from level 50 to 51 takes about 10 days. At level 100, you'll earn 60 exp per day, and 1,000 exp per day is required, meaning it takes 15 days to progress from level 100 to 101.

By the way, if we assume a knight receives an average of 50 exp per day, then one year after the server opens, regular players will be at over level 60.

Besides, I personally believe that each player will earn significantly more exp, around 70-80 points per day depending on activity, which translates to level 80 after a year of play. Is that a low level?

Look at this player on INT 7 who went from level 1 to level 10 in 6 days, earning 70 exp per day at the very beginning of the game:
https://int7.knightfight.moonid.net/player/522000130/

Is it possible? It's obvious. Why did it happen? Because he had many opponents to attack. It will be similar on the classic, because without access to BS the level on the server will be very similar and this way you can get 20-30 extra exp every day.

But without Battle Server, you can't have these huge levels to begin with. Definitely not in such a short period of time. Therefore there won't be as big disparity as it exists now - or in your case what you brought up exp losses. You wouldn't be on top with having an extra 30 or 40 lvls on the next guy. That just wouldn't happen with natural progression.
Sure some different issues would potentially arise, like new players spending couple of hundred euros and buying stats day 1. Something like that but surely even with the worst possible outcome, a server without Battle Grounds would benefit more players.

You could launch a server like that as a test server and, if successful, merge it into a standard server.

The fact that servers die out quickly is partly due to new game worlds being launched in rapid succession; no sooner had a new one arrived than the previous world died out.

We saw this happen with INT 6: when INT 7 came out, INT 6 died out almost overnight...

However, the same thing can happen with a Classic server, because eventually it gets boring constantly bashing the same familiar opponents, and there are no alternatives. After all, we’ve seen all this before.

A test server should run for an extended period to allow for a more accurate assessment of development and to see how well such a "Classic" server is actually received. Everything is great at the start, but time will tell who is truly committed to it. It’s worth a try – you have nothing to lose, and if you don’t like it, you can simply delete the account or pass it on.

I like this idea and would also be in for the change

But as previously mentioned, for some players, the road ends at Server Int 7. After INT 7 and INT 5, these players took stock and decided: That’s it.

That is also one reason why leveling has stagnated. It wasn't just about the battle server itself, but also the fact that some players are simply less active now.

Many have already stopped investing further in their characters—either putting them on hold or just checking in sporadically. Regardless of what game worlds might be introduced next or the direction things take, the number of active players is dwindling. It is usually the same core group, and some of them have now quit—unfortunately.