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We noticed and heard a lot of rumors recently that some accounts on Int7 have been banned. I’m not very familiar with the whole highscore chart, so I honestly don’t know who is missing or what exactly happened.

Personally, I think actions like this should be communicated openly to the community, since they can also impact daily gameplay and the server environment overall.

Does anybody have more information about the situation? And if possible, could the admins openly summarize what happened and why? I’d appreciate some clarification.

@J@sny

I have no idea what happened or what the point of this is.

Two of our players have disappeared right in the middle of a guild war. We’ve gone from 10 members down to 8. We had to improvise on the fly because we don't know what is going on or who else might be affected—something like this is absolutely terrible during a guild war—and we are absolutely furious.

The affected players did not delete their accounts themselves, as they would have had to leave the guild first in order to do so. These players were deleted by the system, but I simply cannot understand why. The players in question had been members of our guild for a long time.

When we reached out for an explanation, we received no real clarification that could help us resolve the issue.

Here is how it looks to us:

It involved two members of our guild at once, right in the middle of a Guild War. Consequently, our guild is forced to assume that this was directed exclusively against us, and that tickets were filed specifically against us...

And as p_b aptly put it:

I have to question again - are the team at CRATR purposefully mishandling the comminity so an excuse to pull the plug is generated? Because I've never seen so much division in nearly 20 years....

The operators should realize that actions like this cause unnecessary unrest and even greater frustration, especially given the already tense situation.

Your 2 guild members were not the only ones deleted. I also noticed two other players disappeared. Don’t jump to conclusions — admins usually don’t remove accounts without solid proof. So even if it was “planned” to win the guild war, if they were breaking the rules, action was probably justified (just assuming here).

That’s why I would expect an open and solid statement from Cratr here, to stop these rumors and accusations. Please keep in mind that the guilty one is the person breaking the rules, not the one reporting them — even if that person was your game buddy.

Many people insult you on the forum and in private, they get reported, and they're never banned. They ask for endless information and then do nothing. Instead, when they decide, they ban whoever they want, even everyone from the same guild. Furthermore, they've never resolved the issue of those transferred to Inter 5 with 16 years more seniority than residents. By now, I think everyone has understood that in this game, the law isn't the same for everyone, and the rules aren't applied to everyone, but only to some. This game is adrift, and whose responsibility is it?

Stop mixing threads and behave like an adult. Don’t keep dragging the same topic back every time when we’re discussing something else. Stay on your topic and spam there instead.
And if you’re here already, maybe say which accounts were actually deleted? :)

I say what I want as long as I'm telling the absolute truth. Do you understand this? Do you know which accounts were deleted? The ones without any protection from above...

I have a suggestion regarding bans and account deletions.

Back in the old RMS days, every time an account was banned or deleted, there was usually a forum announcement with some basic information about it.

I think something like that would help again today. Even when these decisions are justified, they often feel invisible from the outside, and that creates rumours, accusations and endless arguments.

This does not need to include private information. A simple format would already be enough:
account / server / rule broken / sanction / duration, if temporary.

That would make decisions easier to understand without exposing unnecessary personal information.

If people have been banned, it’s probably because they deserved it. I’m not saying I approve of the approach, but CRATR is likely withholding information to avoid publicly exposing the cheaters (and sparing them from a public backlash).

As for guild wars and all that, that’s beside the point. You should be angry at your fellow players for cheating, not at the administrators for banning them. Also, let’s be wary of statements like “I know them, I know they don’t cheat.” I recently saw people saying “I know him, he didn’t do anything wrong” in the game, and in the end, well, yes, he had indeed done something wrong.

You don’t really know people on the internet. :)

The reality of the situation is that CRATR has most likely sent each of the players in question an explanation of why they were banned. Now, of course, it’s unlikely that they’ll admit to you that they actually cheated.

Thanks – Twenry114 has actually covered almost everything here. It’s also difficult from a data protection perspective to create a ‘wall of shame’, and it’s important to note that we don’t want to brand players as cheats in any form, as we did in the past; the player might want to give fair play another go.

When an account is deleted, an email is automatically sent to the email address on file and the player is notified.