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APULUS
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Posted Feb. 12, 2026, 5 p.m.

Players born in 2007/2010 are arriving on the International 5 server, meaning they have 10-13 years more experience playing than those of us born in 2020 or later. But why do the administrators allow all this? It's an unequal battle. And if action isn't taken, many players will abandon the game. I'll be one of them. I hope the necessary measures are taken or at least that further transfers are blocked, as they would further ruin this game.

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Nimoe
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Posted Feb. 12, 2026, 5:40 p.m.

I agree. Even if these accounts on the other servers have achieved this level of performance, it's completely disproportionate to the players on server 5 or even server 6. They're inferior to the older accounts in terms of skill build and high score because, on average, they're up to 10 years behind in terms of experience needed to reach such a high score position and develop such a skill set.

Players who worked their way up the high score rankings on servers 5 and 6 level by level have been pushed out by old transfer accounts, and now their supposed to just accept it as if it's nothing special?

You also have to see it from the perspective of those players who created their own characters on servers 5 and 6 and can't even come close to the skill level of those who joined these servers through transfers. These players feel completely cheated and are on the verge of quitting because it's just not fun anymore.

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eric-reiter@orange.fr
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Posted Feb. 14, 2026, 3:10 p.m.

Une seule façon d'empècher leur OPA sur KF, ils ont les postes "cléf", mais il suffit juste que tous les vrais joueurs tapent sans cesse nos ennemis décriés ci dessus, quitte à perdre beaucoup d'xp pour empècher leur progression, ils finiront par se lasser^^

Patti CRATR.games
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Posted Feb. 16, 2026, 12:11 p.m.

Hello,

Where exactly is the problem?
You yourself wanted to make such a transfer, but your game account did not fit the target world.
So I don't really understand your complaint here.
For starters, only game accounts that fit the game world can be transferred.

p_b
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Posted Feb. 13, 2026, 10:40 a.m.

I'm not on any of the INT worlds, but it is rather intersting that you've said accounts are turning up on int5. I know that the previous world move was limited to int1 -> int4 for this very reason. (even though those early INT worlds are bloated with BG spammed accounts and dwarf any of the "old" pre-BG accounts.)

I can't see how old accounts just magically appear - so I think INT5 players (and the wider community) ought to be told how this has happened, where they came from and why now.

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APULUS
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Posted Feb. 13, 2026, 5:24 p.m.

They know it very well. They are the ones who give permission for this to happen.

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Rafael1996
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Posted Feb. 13, 2026, 12:38 p.m.

You can delete your character on INT5, one less crybaby, instead of being happy that the server has come to life thanks to such transfers, you just cry, you were the first to transfer a knight to INT1, I also have an account there and I don't cry every minute when someone makes a transfer there, and now you're talking about others, don't you have anything better to do in life than complain?

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APULUS
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Posted Feb. 13, 2026, 5:48 p.m.

You lie knowingly. Your speech describes who you are.

Nimoe
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Posted Feb. 14, 2026, 11:10 a.m.
Edited by Nimoe Feb. 14, 2026, 11:16 a.m.

@Rafael1996

You can delete your character on INT5, one less crybaby,

I don't think CRATR likes seeing such aggressive statements and playstyles driving away other players and causing them to lose customers. You have to see it this way:

Knight Fight isn't just you; it's also made up of other long-time players who have kept this game alive for almost two decades.

What might happen if many players followed your suggestion?

So, if you suggest players here should just delete their accounts because you'll do whatever you want anyway, it's heading in exactly this direction:

  • The server is broken because some people might actually do what you're suggesting, which, by the way, is more like a petulant child.

  • Some old accounts are gone or no longer being played.

  • You're alone on this server and don't need Premium anymore because who do you have to prove anything to?

  • Ultimately, no one invests anymore because once a server is dead, it's no longer worth it for players to play Premium there. You don't have to prove anything to dead servers.

  • The operating costs of this game exceed the revenue. Conclusion: The game is being discontinued.

Or

  • CRATR launching a new server to cover operating costs for now.

Server 5 is currently dying out, and Server 6 will follow suit. They were the only two servers that survived longer, even longer than Veligrad, which is already dying out after four months. Nobody is continuing, mainly because of the implemented balancing.

There are only very high-level accounts and those that stopped playing at level 40 or 50.

Nimoe
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Posted Feb. 13, 2026, 2:22 p.m.
Edited by Nimoe Feb. 14, 2026, 3:04 a.m.

@Rafael

Take a look at the message from p_b

I'm not on any of the INT worlds, but it is rather intersting that you've said accounts are turning up on int5. I know that the previous world move was limited to int1 -> int4 for this very reason. (even though those early INT worlds are bloated with BG spammed accounts and dwarf any of the "old" pre-BG accounts.)

I can't see how old accounts just magically appear - so I think INT5 players (and the wider community) ought to be told how this has happened, where they came from and why now.


So, to clarify,

this was about migrations on INT servers 1 through 4. Migrations to INT servers 5 and 6 were never officially mentioned. Nor were they ever publicly announced. And servers 5 and 6 were more populated even without these old accounts. Not anymore, because if by "populated" you mean wrecking them in no time, then you've certainly succeeded.

Of course this is great for you, because you are the players of these old accounts on servers 5 and 6. From your point of view, this is perfect.

you were the first to transfer a knight to INT1

Again, this is taken out of context. Transfers haven't even been offered that long. Last year's transfers were only available for servers 1 through 4, and even then, server INT 1 was already 11 years old, with the account only 5 years older than the server itself. This isn't comparable to server INT 6, which has only existed since 2024, or server INT 5 from 2020, which now have accounts up to 15 years older, meaning they have 15 years more experience in skill development and character creation than the accounts on those servers. This isn't revitalizing such a server—it's more like rapidly destroying it.

@JDA

And even if APULUS switched to Server 1 with an account, what's wrong with that?

An old account from 2009 on an old server from 2014 ?

With only a 5-year age difference, not 15 years like on server INT6 or 11 to 13 years like on server Int 5.

But an account from 2006, 2007 or 2009 has no business being on Server 5 from 2020 or Server 6 from 2024, since the characters on those servers are nowhere near as experienced or high-level as an account that's sometimes over 10 years older.

Self-explanatory, right?

Furthermore, I request that the administrators remove JDA's post containing the link, as such content does not belong in the forum, especially without anonymizing the player in question.

This kind of behavior is completely unacceptable.**

LeMaitre
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Posted Feb. 14, 2026, 12:14 p.m.

**Bonjour à tous les modérateurs(polonais pour la plupars^^).

Je suis déçu et dégouté de voir que tant de transferts de personnages avec des hautes stats soient autorisés encore, ainsi que des personnages supprimés ou à l'abandon et qui réapparaissent!

Vous ètes en train de tuer tous les serveurs avec vos manigances!

Et une fois que vous aurez les premières guildes , et que vous serez "intouchables", que se passera-t-il si vous ne jouez qu'entre modérateurs et polonais?

Allez, ça suffit de discuter avec des tricheurs, bon week end aux vrais joueurs qui se reconnaitront et me reconnaitrons^^

Lulu ;)**

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APULUS
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Posted Feb. 14, 2026, 12:39 p.m.

Bravo ! Enfin une autre personne sérieuse et intelligente. Nous sommes très peu nombreux à dire la vérité (moi, Nimoe, toi et quelques autres). Les Rouges et Blancs (mieux vaut ne pas les nommer, sinon ils nous interdiront même d'y penser) raflent tout. L'idéal serait qu'ils soient les seuls à rester et qu'ils jouent entre eux. Bon week-end à toi aussi.

Nimoe
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Posted Feb. 14, 2026, 1:20 p.m.
Edited by Nimoe Feb. 14, 2026, 3:59 p.m.

**Bonjour à tous les modérateurs(polonais pour la plupars^^).

Je suis déçu et dégouté de voir que tant de transferts de personnages avec des hautes stats soient autorisés encore, ainsi que des personnages supprimés ou à l'abandon et qui réapparaissent!

Vous ètes en train de tuer tous les serveurs avec vos manigances!

Et une fois que vous aurez les premières guildes , et que vous serez "intouchables", que se passera-t-il si vous ne jouez qu'entre modérateurs et polonais?

Allez, ça suffit de discuter avec des tricheurs, bon week end aux vrais joueurs qui se reconnaitront et me reconnaitrons^^

Lulu ;)**

Yes, several long-time players have had this thought. How is it possible that accounts that have been inactive for several years, even deleted accounts where some players witnessed the deletion, suddenly reappear with the same names, which are then later changed? Many long-time players recognize these accounts because they played with the original owners for years.

The obvious conclusion is that these deleted accounts are being reactivated and passed on to new users. After all, if accounts have been inactive for years, how does contact with former players arise if they haven't played for years or deleted their accounts?

I don't want to make any accusations against the operators here. This is just a guess. It's a question that has now arisen among many long-time players who are wondering how an account can be transferred to a new player when the original player hasn't been active on KF for years.

These mass migrations of old accounts to new servers have raised some questions among players. And there are no official statements explaining why these mass migrations of old accounts to newer servers are happening more frequently now. It's no wonder, then, that this is causing discontent and raising questions.

You see, "Hey, I know that guy. He's playing again?," and then, hours later, the name has changed.

So, what do you think we should make of this?

My personal view is this:

Old accounts could only be accessed if the login credentials were saved; otherwise, these accounts would remain inactive on the server indefinitely.

If the accounts are inactive for years anyway, the likelihood of the players ever returning, or even knowing their login credentials, is very low.

Where there is no plaintiff, there is no judge.

I don't know if there's a "retention period" for how long these inactive accounts have to remain online. I can't find anything about it, except perhaps this:

§1 There is no legal entitlement to a game account.

Does this include old, deactivated, abandoned accounts, or possibly even deleted accounts?

An official statement would be helpful to clarify this.

eric-reiter@orange.fr
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Posted Feb. 14, 2026, 1:59 p.m.

Vive la FRANCE!

Moi aussi je joue depuis + de 20 ans sur KF.

Je suis aussi un [-666-], car c'est en France que je les ai crée, et je connais tous mes membres depuis longtemps sur tous les serveurs.

Je sais qu'il y a des malfaçons chez les modos.

Mais une chose est certaine, les polonais ne me font pas peur, et s'ils veulent jouer avec moi, alors laissez moi envoyer quelque personnages sur vos serveurs inter, on verra bien les comiques^^

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LeMaitre
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Posted Feb. 14, 2026, 2:14 p.m.
Edited by LeMaitre Feb. 14, 2026, 2:15 p.m.

Merci "Papa", tu as raison! Apèrs tout, si c'est la seule façon qu'ils ont de s'amuser, alors laissons les jouer entre eux, ils finiront par passer à des jeux comme fortnite tellement ils seront seuls sur KF XD

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eric-reiter@orange.fr
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Posted Feb. 14, 2026, 2:34 p.m.

Et surtout mème ta "mère" , donc ma femme, comme ça tous les blaireaux sont au courant (à pars les vrais joueurs qui nous connaissent).

Effectivement [-666-]La Dame De Coeur, ne veux mème pas s'exprimer sur le fofo tellement elle pense qu'agir comme ils le font est déplorable, elle aussi joue depuis longtemps, tu le sais, c'est une histoire de famille, et pas d'égo envers les nations tricheuses ;)

bourritos
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Posted Feb. 14, 2026, 4:51 p.m.

*Bonjour à tous,

Je suis entièrement d'accord avec vous. Ce jeu devient du grand n'importe quoi !!!
Je suis sur la plupart des serveurs depuis plusieurs années, et je vois bien l'évolution ou plûtot la détérioration de ce jeu car cela devient compliqué de jouer sans être gemmeux. Personnellement je joue pour le plaisir comme certains joueurs, jeu = plaisir .
Je suis fière d'être une [-666-]. Pour la guerre, je suis partante j'en connais beaucoup qui vont se rallier à nous. Tenons bon mes amis, notre force c'est la patience.*

La "maman des [-666-]".

APULUS
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Posted Feb. 15, 2026, 2:53 p.m.

Bien joué, je suis d'accord. J'ai demandé le transfert de mon personnage de l'Inter 1 à l'Inter 5. Ils ont refusé. Bon, je ne suis pas rouge et blanc, je suis italien, alors je n'y ai pas droit.

LeMaitre
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Posted Feb. 14, 2026, 2:57 p.m.

Il vaut mieux faire "profil bas" Papa , comme on dit chez nous, sinon ils vont trouver n'importe quelle excuses pour supprimer nos comptes (on les connait à Patty et au reste^^).
Laissons les "pourrir nos serveurs et puis on est patient, tu me l'as appris, alors quand ils seront vieux et ne joueront plus, on sera encore là ^^

eric-reiter@orange.fr
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Posted Feb. 14, 2026, 3:05 p.m.
Edited by eric-reiter@orange.fr Feb. 14, 2026, 3:06 p.m.

**ok, on va faire comme ça, les + intelligents ne sont pas ceux dont on se méfie, c'est nous, alors restons prèt à toutes éventuallités et tapons tous ceux qu'on a décrit auparavant^^
Que tous les chevaliers qui le lisent le fassent, pas de quartiers, on s'en fiche de la perte d'xp, il faut les massacrer^^

Tenez vous prèts les ennemis^^

The end.**

APULUS
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Posted Feb. 15, 2026, 2:54 p.m.

Bien joué, je suis d'accord. J'ai demandé le transfert de mon personnage de l'Inter 1 à l'Inter 5. Ils ont refusé. Bon, je ne suis pas rouge et blanc, je suis italien, alors je n'y ai pas droit.

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Nimoe
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Posted Feb. 15, 2026, 4:02 p.m.
Edited by Nimoe Feb. 15, 2026, 4:17 p.m.

At level 357 and a KP of approximately 99, you're unfortunately too high for server 5. The average character there – so far – has a KP of around 20 to max. 25.

I can't really judge that anymore, since many high-level players have joined, whose KP is estimated to be around 27 to almost 30, and even then, they're already too high for the average on server 5. But as I said, those are just estimates.

A character level (KP) of 27 to 35 should not be allowed on Server 5 at all, since on average, none of the original players who created their characters there are currently in that KP. There might be one or two players, but one or two player doesn't make up the entire server.

Such high-level accounts in that KP shouldn't even exist on server 5 — but they do, and I don't quite understand how they were able to get through the system. They shouldn't have been allowed on there in the first place.

APULUS
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Posted Feb. 15, 2026, 2:57 p.m.

Les transferts devraient être effectués soit par tous, soit par personne. Or, ils ne sont autorisés qu'à « certains ». Allez savoir pourquoi…

Ostaszewianin
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Posted Feb. 15, 2026, 9:42 p.m.

There should be no account transfers between servers at all. There's also an unofficial market for taking over/swapping better accounts on the same server, where two players reach an agreement through the administration. This situation should be regulated in the rules.

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LeMaitre
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Posted Feb. 15, 2026, 10:05 p.m.

Et oui, l'OPA lancée par certains (joueurs/admins) se poursuit sur les serveurs inter de KF...Mais les [-666-] veillent au grain (capture d'écran, échange de conversations entre joueurs, etc...)
Le moment venu, si aucun autre guerrier n'ose lever le ton, nous serons toujours présent pour empècher cela ;)
D'ailleurs, beaucoup de blabla , mais ni un admin, ni aucun grands guerriers n'a osé nous rejpoindre pour le moment...

Posez vous les bonnes questions: si c'est juste pour causer sur le forum, allez sur snapchat, si c'est vraiment pour jouer et conserver nos valeurs sur ce jeu, alors Bougez au lieu de Raler^^

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Nimoe
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Posted Feb. 16, 2026, 2:19 a.m.

But you've already noticed that the high-level players who moved to Server 5 don't belong there because they don't fit in with the other accounts already there, right?

What's the point of fighting wars there? It's a complete waste of time, because you can't win against players that high. When wars are manipulated like this, by transferring accounts from other servers and bringing them into this war guild, it's a real disgrace, nothing more.

No, sorry, I'd much rather have a proper party in real life than this kind of bullshit, like what's happening on Server 5 right now.

As mentioned above, server transfers really shouldn't be allowed if this is the kind of thing that results from them. I agree.

Nimoe
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Posted Feb. 16, 2026, 2:36 a.m.
Edited by Nimoe Feb. 16, 2026, 2:40 a.m.

There should be no account transfers between servers at all. There's also an unofficial market for taking over/swapping better accounts on the same server, where two players reach an agreement through the administration. This situation should be regulated in the rules.

####### This should be included in the game rules and prohibited.

We are currently seeing on Server 5, as well as on Server 6, what serious impact such possibilities can have. I was always under the impression that something like this wasn't possible without CRATR's approval.

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Nimoe
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Posted Feb. 16, 2026, 11:01 a.m.

And now I'd like to return to the actual topic:

and come back to this, because that's what it's really about:

@Ostaszewianin

Veröffentlicht 15. Februar 2026 21:42

There should be no account transfers between servers at all. There's also an unofficial market for taking over/swapping better accounts on the same server, where two players reach an agreement through the administration. This situation should be regulated in the rules.

Is that correct?

I would like to read objective comments, not insults, accusations, or screenshots where names and guilds are publicly defamed.

Is that possible?

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APULUS
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Posted Feb. 16, 2026, 11:51 a.m.

Blah blah blah. Unproven chatter, empty words that only confirm the worth of those who write them. The facts are what count, and they're there for all to see. Anyone who's intelligent enough will immediately understand what it's all about. And I'll stop there.

Rafael1996
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Posted Feb. 16, 2026, 11:54 a.m.

you are so bothered by the accounts transferred to INT5, and you wrote for help in the war, and you yourselves are the aggressors in this war,

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Nimoe
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Posted Feb. 16, 2026, 12:19 p.m.
Edited by Nimoe Feb. 16, 2026, 12:34 p.m.

So, from an outsider's perspective:

When war was declared on this Polish guild, they were five members. Then five transferred accounts joined. Consequently, some of these accounts also joined the other guild.

And yes, the rest of us are watching this spectacle – maybe even with a bag of popcorn in hand. ^^

It's better than any thriller, and when we outsiders see, "Ah, another new account has joined the server," we immediately place bets: Will it join or not?

I only see one account in the Polish guild that originally came from server 5.

If we did that, you'd criticize us just the same and remind us to be fair, right?

So why do you remind us when you don't follow the rules yourselves?

Nimoe
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Posted Feb. 16, 2026, 2:08 p.m.
Edited by Nimoe Feb. 16, 2026, 2:16 p.m.

Seriously, guys, this is a game where fairness plays a big role. Constantly hurling insults at each other has little to do with what this game was originally intended for.

I used to really enjoy this game, whenever I had the free time. But it's lost its appeal precisely because of this kind of thing and because of potentially unfair gameplay.

The links and screenshots being posted here make you feel like you're in a schoolyard, because that's exactly what it is.

No normal, reasonable conversation is possible.

Let's get to the point:

These account transfers exist. Using these characters directly in a war is absolutely unacceptable.

By the way, is there some kind of internal online catalog where you can choose the levels and knights you want?

That's the impression you get when you look at server 5.

And that's the end of that, I think. Many long-time players are calling it quits and have already announced they're leaving KF, especially the players on server 5.

There won't be any new game worlds for me or any of the other players.

Suggestion:
To bring fairness to the situation, I would suggest that newly added accounts be banned from participating in ongoing wars. That would have been a good start for server 5 and other servers as well.
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Rafael1996
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Posted Feb. 16, 2026, 2:20 p.m.

So I take it you clicked "delete account" and you'll be gone tomorrow?

These are our old accounts from the Polish servers. Nothing's happening there, so we transferred them with the admins' permission. It's less of a hassle because if we hadn't gotten permission, we'd probably be on a different server. You can also invite your friends to have some fun. When someone attacks me and I lose, it motivates me to play the game and become stronger.

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Nimoe
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Posted Feb. 16, 2026, 3:03 p.m.
Edited by Nimoe Feb. 16, 2026, 8:28 p.m.

So I take it you clicked "delete account" and you'll be gone tomorrow?

These are our old accounts from the Polish servers. Nothing's happening there, so we transferred them with the admins' permission. It's less of a hassle because if we hadn't gotten permission, we'd probably be on a different server. You can also invite your friends to have some fun. When someone attacks me and I lose, it motivates me to play the game and become stronger.

And it's precisely because of such unqualified, childish statements that nobody wants to play with you, or at least some of you.

I know some Polish players who are okay, and I get along well with them. You definitely don't belong to that group.

Well, I know plenty of players, but they don't want to put up with the kind of thing you're saying. So why should they spend money to switch to a server like that?

Cratr probably especially enjoys seeing statements like yours when you ridicule users by telling them to delete their accounts. So much for preserving the game worlds.

So Rafael, why are you attacking me or others when I'm simply arguing objectively?

That's the same thing you accuse other players of when you feel attacked. You're no better.

You are surely the youngest member here; your lack of understanding and your aggressive, inappropriate writing style suggest this.

Not all of these accounts belong to you; they may have been transferred to you by other Polish players on the new target world.

Because I highly doubt that a 21- or 30-year-old would be playing an account from 2006. It's unlikely, considering the ages listed in the profiles compared to the ages of the accounts.

And now let's leave it at that.

Rafael1996
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Posted Feb. 16, 2026, 3:12 p.m.

You yourself wrote nonsense to me in private messages, so I had to write to you that I would report it to the game administration or should I also send screenshots here?

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