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Nimoe
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Posted Feb. 16, 2026, 3:32 p.m.
Edited by Nimoe Feb. 16, 2026, 4:08 p.m.

@Rafael:

I don't even know you in the game.

So I have no idea what you mean, and frankly, I don't care.

It's not allowed in the forum. Do you want to get banned?

Forum rules, among others:

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Slanderous campaigns and propaganda aimed at other portal and forum users are also prohibited. Exceptions to this rule are permitted within the context of RPG (role-playing) topics with mutual consent, as long as the boundaries of good taste are not crossed.

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Referential references to or mentioning of other forum members in your own posts are prohibited if they are defamatory or insulting.

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Posts may not contain game-relevant information (player names, user IDs, statistics, messages, etc.) unless the player mentioned in the post consents to its publication. This consent must be clearly indicated in the respective post. If it is not given, relevant parts must be redacted.

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The publication of log files, emails, chat messages, etc., is not permitted unless all parties involved have given their consent.

Have I done that?

NO, and I won't allow it either.

And that really says it all, I think.

PS:

I don't message other players unless I'm friends with them. So, I don't really have any contacts outside the guild.

A Polish player once asked me about suitable zombies for the battlefield, if I knew of any, and I helped him out, telling him what to look out for. He was very nice, so I gave him a tip. But that was quite a while ago.

But you can send me the message via private message chat, because I really don't know what to do with it otherwise.

Posting it here is forbidden, according to the forum rules. :)

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Ostaszewianin
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Posted Feb. 16, 2026, 10:55 p.m.

@Nimoe

Since accounts have been transferred to a newer server, they automatically become part of that server. Whether to wage war with such accounts is the responsibility of the account owners. It's not up to me to judge the "morality" of individual players.

There should be an "Account Transfer" section here—the same as on the German forum, complete with rules.

It's really a waste of time arguing on the forum.

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Nimoe
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Posted Feb. 16, 2026, 11:39 p.m.
Edited by Nimoe Feb. 17, 2026, 1:48 a.m.

@Ostaszewianin

I completely agree with you. 👍

I'm glad we're on the same page. 🙂

We're also discussing this in the German forum, but without the mudslinging we're seeing here.

Of course, some people are very annoyed. But things are much calmer there than here.

There should be an "Account Transfer" section here—the same as on the German forum, complete with rules.

Okay, that at least explains the internal account swapping. I assumed that this would be handled here in the English forum, one of the other forum sections here, or even via the German forum.

Twenry114
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Posted Feb. 17, 2026, 3:36 a.m.

Guys, I think what's happening right now is very serious and that everyone would benefit from calming down... I don't know if you realize what you're getting yourselves into, it's turning into racism, talking about people based on their origin, it's pretty crazy. And I'd like to remind you that it's not just forbidden on KF, it's also illegal in real life....

You're all getting disproportionately upset over a game! It's just a GAME.

I get the impression that what frustrates long-time INT5 players is that they had their little routine on that server, they were at the top of the rankings, and the authorization to transfer accounts to INT5 changed the game.

And yes, I'll remind you again: transfers can only be made with CRATR's approval, manually by CRATR, and the possibility of transfer ALWAYS EXISTS. Before, it was limited in time, when the event appeared. Before, the transfer targets were from INT1 to INT4, most likely due to the age of the server. With INT5 getting older, it has naturally become possible to transfer a character there. And the rule has always been clear: the transferred character cannot be higher level than the character on the target server. And there is probably also a look at the statistics.

So no, this isn't new, it didn't happen just to please “Polish” players, nor to annoy anyone.

So, I can understand that it's frustrating. To think, “Oh no, I had reached the top, I was beaten by very few people on my server, my guild was the strongest, but now there are other players arriving and they're already strong.” I understand that it's frustrating. But does that justify getting so angry, making comments that border on racism by conflating a situation with a specific population, getting upset, insulting the admins, etc.? And that's still the point of the game, I think? Knight Fight is still a PvP game, that's where all the fun lies... If you're all alone on a server, where's the fun in that?

I think it's a good thing that there's an active level 100-200 server. INT6 is dead, INT7 is almost dead (and only active at low levels), and INT1 is no fun unless you're extremely high level. Besides, Appulus, I notice that it bothered you much less when when you bought a very high level INT1 character and attacked me daily on INT1, even though there was a 200 level difference between us, you lost 200 XP points with each attack, your character had stats of 900, while I had stats of 300... I still get the impression that it only bothers you when you lose.

So stop getting upset. Play. That's the point of the game. I also made the transfer because I think it's cool to have a server that comes back to life by bringing together players scattered here and there across lots of servers. It's about playing together. The problem is that I feel like no one here wants to “play together”; people just want to “win at all costs.” That makes it toxic and inevitably leads to this kind of thread where everyone insults each other. It's terrible.

Please, relax, it's just a game. Have fun. :)

p_b
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Posted Feb. 17, 2026, 10:22 a.m.

All the mud slinging and insults aside my ONLY gripe is that there was not some sort of announcement that another world was now open for transfers.

I'm sure that if CRATR had said "we're opening up int5 for kights to transfer who are BE range ABC / level range XYZ" All this would have been avoided entirely, because people would have known that things were potentially going to change.

It's yet another example imo of mismanagment by those that control the messaging and administer the game.

For the record on UK1 we had the whole greek server merged in (iirc which I may not it was a long time ago now - without notice) back in 2013 - it bumped me back about 1 year's progress up the leaderboard in term of mission pay ranking.

some knight's I've only recently overtaken as they've obviously retired.....

Things change, stuff that brings servers back to life is good - but as Twenry states -there is absolustely zero reason to be so toxic to other players about things you might disagree with.

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Nimoe
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Posted Feb. 17, 2026, 12:02 p.m.

I agree with you 100%. Very well put.

An announcement:

Starting on [date], it will now be possible to move to game worlds 5 INT and 6 INT. A brief explanation for those who want to do this for the first time... and that's it.

Everyone could have taken note of this and perhaps inquired beforehand with the appropriate department, whether about their own move or whether they would even agree to it...

Problem solved.

It wouldn't have come to this, where players on servers 5 and 6 feel completely ignored.

These players are your customers; you should inform them beforehand about the plans instead of handling this internally.

And yes, this is an open point of criticism regarding Cratr.

But I do have one more question:

How did the players of these transferred accounts find out that these transfers were also being made to INT 5 and INT 6 if there was no official announcement?

And that's precisely why there's all this trouble here and also on the game worlds themselves.

I only found out after the fact, after the transferred accounts had already arrived, and I had inquired why these accounts were there.

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Twenry114
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Posted Feb. 17, 2026, 12:22 p.m.

For my part, I was invited to join INT5 by another player. It should be noted that I am not Polish and have never played in a Polish guild, so I really took this invitation as “come on, let's play together, one against the other, it'll be fun.” :)

That's why I say we need to stop seeing evil everywhere. I really think the initiative was to say, “Let's all get together, active players between levels 100-200 on the same server, to have some fun,” because I think everyone was bored on their own. The idea wasn't to “crush” anyone.

Otherwise, I agree that an official announcement should have been made. I would even say that “it's never too late to do the right thing,” and that it might encourage more people to join and “rebalance things.”

Nimoe
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Posted Feb. 17, 2026, 5:40 p.m.
Edited by Nimoe Feb. 18, 2026, 8:21 a.m.

@Twenry114

I didn't single out any particular nationality. Their nationality is completely irrelevant to me. I'm only interested in the high-level newcomers on these servers, regardless of their nationality.

And that leaves the question: where did these players get the information that it's now possible to transfer to servers 5 and 6? Because these transfers are, after all, being handled officially by the game's operators. And that question remains unanswered. All of this could have been avoided if the operators had simply contacted the players on the affected servers directly. A public announcement: "Hey, there's an update coming. Transfers to this or that server are now possible." Is it no longer necessary to officially share this information with ALL players?

Again, for most players there, it's not about the nationality of the players with these high-level accounts, but solely about the fact that these transfers are now possible without any prior announcement. That's why they're furious right now.

For players with low-level characters there, this server is no longer acceptable, and I can't recommend starting a low-level character there anymore. It's just not worth it. Because the servers there are dead for beginners. For high-level players, they're clearly more active than other, even older servers.

From the perspective of a player who levels their character from scratch:

You quickly lose interest in leveling your character yourself. In the long run, however, this is precisely what brings in the most money for the operators. Neither trading existing characters nor transferring them from old to new servers can compensate for this. After all, the selection of equipment and the combat potential against zombies on the battlefields are limited.

Regarding Server 7 INT:

If something like this were to become possible on Server 7 soon, it would backfire. Nobody would want to create a character for future game worlds anymore.

Everyone can be at the forefront of a new game world...

What's the point?

Especially since players who level their characters from scratch are ridiculed and then told to simply delete their little characters.

Ostaszewianin
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Posted Feb. 17, 2026, 11:02 p.m.

Limits should be set (e.g., once every half a year).

  • Per MoonID account
  • Per game account

It's unacceptable for a player (MoonID account) to take over an account, play for 2-3 months, then decide they've found a better account and swap it again. Then, such a player "flexes their muscles" and shows off their "power" and "skill."

Such "jumpers" are somewhat ruining the competition for others who have been playing with the same account from the start...

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Nimoe
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Posted Feb. 18, 2026, 1:31 a.m.

👍

vanderhbz
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Posted Feb. 17, 2026, 11:51 p.m.

I already think the company should start thinking about a structure for a possible server merge, but one that lasts a good amount of time and is well-planned.

Example: Servers that have 6, 7, 8 channels.
They could start by merging server 1 with 2.
After a certain time, 3 with 4, and so on, taking into account SERVER AGE, player progress, etc...

They could even think about a server pairing structure.

For example, they will merge servers UK1 and UK2 (just an example, I don't even play on them and I don't know how the progress is). If server 1 is more developed, they could announce a merge date (for example, in 5 months) and during that period there could be a buff on server 2 to help SLIGHTLY to equalize the servers, so that when they merge, there isn't such a big discrepancy.

This buff could be, for example: a 20% mission bonus, more EXP points, bonus Battleserver exits, more tavern rewards, etc...

I think we've reached a point where we need to halve the number of available servers, but as I said, EVERYTHING MUST BE DONE WITH CAREFUL ANALYSIS.

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p_b
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Posted Feb. 18, 2026, 12:10 p.m.

I do not think that there should be any mechanism to "catch up" as that is just patently "not fair" for those players that accounts are played daily but just haven't ammased as much XP over time. (prem vs non-prem & BG vs non-BG for example)

I think the "fairest" merge would be on player gold spent / stats / XP then Server age (though that would prob do some sorting too).

I also think there should be a required "opt in" flag that is set on the players profile.

Why you may ask for this flag.

Because is there really much point in merging an abandoned account into a new world in the hope that it will drive more activity?

Shunt all the "hibernating" accounts into a couple of other worlds based on the criteria used for the merge and do not allow new player registrations on those worlds
Put a system message on any of those accounts that's permanent that if a player logs in they have to "wake up" the account and will get moved to an active world.

There's so many ways CRATR "could" do this - but all of the analysis requires a lot data to be sifted through before the technical feasibility is done.

We know there's code to do the move on an individual knight level, but that does not mean it's ready for bulk use.

Sadly as Cratr's communication is so appalling we've got no idea what they're working on and when what they might be doing may appear....

Rafael1996
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Posted Feb. 18, 2026, 11:43 a.m.

All it took was asking the administration if it would be possible to transfer an old account from an old, dead server to a new, more active one, and they chose INT5. Don't blame us for the administration agreeing; our goal was to improve server activity, and as you can see, we succeeded. Please direct your complaints to the game developers, not us. They should provide some general information about account transfers, like they do for MC promotions. Regarding the war, a lot of players were already waiting to transfer when you declared war on us. I personally invited a lot of players from the old servers who play regularly but are alone on the server. I should add that the transferring of accounts wasn't intended to destroy anyone, but to reactivate them together. Those shouting here, if they had better accounts, there probably wouldn't be a post about it. And if you have a better account on this server, give your current one to someone else and bring in a better one. You'll be the one attacking us, because I have no problem with that.

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Nimoe
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Posted Feb. 18, 2026, 2:01 p.m.

if they had better accounts, there probably wouldn't be a post about it.

Well, that's quite an invitation for any new player! It really makes you want to start on a server like that, let alone others. It's truly an insult to everyone who's just started on this server and Server 6, or who's only been playing there for a year or two.

And if you have a better account on this server, give your current one to someone else and bring in a better one.

KF isn't just about trading. There are actually still players who create their own characters and level them up from scratch; they don't play nonstop, and they don't use premium accounts. Let's be fair and not drag new players through the mud like this.

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Ostaszewianin
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Posted Feb. 18, 2026, 12:53 p.m.

This whole verbal fight on this topic wouldn't exist if the admins enforced some rules/regulations that were clear and fair to everyone. What's happening with accounts right now is purely and simply the result of negligence and a lack of enforcement by the game developer. Such a free-for-all and a brothel that causes players to argue with each other.

Regarding server activity, a discussion is needed about how and what to change in the game mechanics, etc. Perhaps radical steps are necessary? But opening new servers and transferring old players to them is pointless. This is not the way to go.

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Nimoe
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Posted Feb. 18, 2026, 2:15 p.m.
Edited by Nimoe Feb. 18, 2026, 2:18 p.m.

I agree, and nobody wants this. These measures came as a complete surprise to the original players of Server 5. I haven't been on the server long; I only recently created a low-level character. To be treated like this, with people even making fun of me or other low-level players, is unacceptable. It really takes the fun out of KF, and that's certainly not in the interest of the game's operators.

Unfortunately, I don't have time to play KF nonstop to level up my character quickly. I play as my real life allows and when I feel like playing. That's why it takes a bit longer to reach a higher level.

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Rym
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Posted Feb. 18, 2026, 5:29 p.m.

I've read the entire discussion carefully and agree with Twenry114 and Vanderhbz.

I believe that CRATR's decisions regarding account transfers are justified and based on a rational and sober assessment of the situation. I also recognize that these are difficult decisions, but they are necessary for the future of KnightFight.

Let me start with a question: Why did the account transfer option appear at all? The answer is this: Because it reached a point where many servers (especially national servers) showed no activity or any signs of life. This was devastating for many active players. We have around 100 servers in KnightFight, and activity only appears on a few (5, 6?). In 2026, there will be fewer players than almost 20 years ago, when online gaming was popular. Therefore, CRATR should make appropriate decisions that will enable play in the current conditions and environment.

The account transfer option appeared in 2024, and that was far too late. Many players who had been building accounts for 5-10 years had lost hope for improvement and left the game. Yes, inaction and inaction are also mistakes that have negative consequences.

2024 was a turning point. The transfer option appeared. Many people transferred their accounts to INT 1. This mostly concerned extremely high levels: 300-500.

However, most players don't have such gigantic accounts and wouldn't even want to play on them. Most old players have accounts around level 150.

At this point, many players wondered which server to choose. INT 1 is a server for extremely high levels (300-500), as Twenry 114, who played there, wrote about. Activity on INT 2-4 is low. The only option was INT 5. Why? Because this server was the newest for four years. And that's a record. INT 2-4 were new for only one year. Therefore, players quickly abandoned these accounts and created new ones on the next server. INT 5 was growing at a fourfold pace. There was much more activity there. The motivation for transferring to INT 5 is explained here: high activity at mid- and high-level levels compared to INT 1-4.

In 2024, transfers to INT 5 were not yet possible, as INT 6 had just launched and INT 5 was relatively new.

The situation changed dramatically when INT 7 opened. Some INT 6 players created stronger accounts in 1.5 years than they had in 5 years on INT 5 – levels above 150, and even close to 200.

Therefore, INT 5 ceased to be a young server.

For this reason, CRATR made the right decision. INT 5 and 6 have almost equalized, even with INT 2-4.

Generally, CRATR (as you can see) has designated three areas for activity accumulation:

  1. the newest server – for those who want to play from the very beginning;

  2. INT 1 – for levels above 300;

  3. INT 5 – for levels 100-200.

I believe this is the best possible division, which will generate significant activity on the servers.

Some argue that CRATR should officially announce the transfer beyond INT 1-4 and change the rules. I disagree with this proposal. I believe that if CRATR were to announce a consultation before making any minor decision, it would paralyze decision-making, and a few vocal individuals could block any good initiative. As a reminder, there are players who criticize CRATR at every opportunity. In a modernly managed company, not only should regulations be in place (which is important), but the authorities should also have some flexibility and freedom, as the situation is constantly changing. I believe CRATR's assertiveness proves that we are heading in the right direction.

Finally, I would like to appeal for mutual respect and an end to pointless arguments 🙏

INT 5 is an open server, and if anyone is looking for a place to play for their level 100-200 lvl, the game administration is open to everyone, and everyone has an equal opportunity.

Instead of argue you should met at one place and start a new adventure there ⚔️⚔️

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Nimoe
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Posted Feb. 18, 2026, 8:36 p.m.
Edited by Nimoe Feb. 18, 2026, 8:43 p.m.

Actually, you don't need to create a character yourself on a new server. You'd just have to wait until server transfers are allowed, then you could move from one of the dying servers to the next active one and save yourself all the investment you'd have to make in creating new, low-level characters.

Honestly, quite a few people want to leave the international servers and, for example, switch to a German server. They want to move from the lower-level servers there. This applies to server 5, though, because those low-level characters don't really fit in there anymore. There should be alternatives for those who aren't entirely satisfied with the situation there. Deleting their accounts shouldn't be their only option, as has already been suggested to me. Where else are they supposed to go?

Or they could wait until server 7 is unlocked. They would then be the first to transfer, precisely because of their lower levels. That would also work.

And from that perspective, you save a lot of money compared to constantly investing so much money in new characters.

p_b
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Posted Feb. 18, 2026, 9:05 p.m.

I don't disagree that moves are good. And I believe that the move/merge should be "forced" on us to concentrate the active players into only a few worlds as it is for the good of the game.

But I fundamentally disagree that cratr had no responsibility to make an announcement that a new world was now in scope for moves.

How may other people might want this chance - who don't read the forum and found this out by happenstance?

My knight would very probably go almost to the top of the leaderboards in most metrics if I were to move it by the sound of it, I've been playing it for 19 years, am under level 200 & I've done just over 200 BG sessions only (almost all free).

LeMaitre
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Posted Feb. 18, 2026, 10:05 p.m.
Edited by LeMaitre Feb. 18, 2026, 10:06 p.m.

Mon analyse personnelle, c'est que vous parlez trop et agissez peu, pas de racisme, juste quelque tricheurs avec l'accord de certains admins,
La plupars des ennemis qui m'attaquent n'ont pas monté leur personnage, juste acheté ou transférés : pour moi ce sont des loosers ^^

Mohahahaha!! Et je ne vous aime pas les tricheurs (vous vous reconnaitrez)

Patti CRATR.games
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Posted Feb. 19, 2026, 6:22 a.m.

Okay, we'll close this thread now. We'll read through it more carefully later and take action if necessary. It's a shame that we're having to close more and more threads at the moment.

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