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APULUS
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Posted May 25, 2026, 11:04 a.m.

Two months have passed since the famous promise, and those "champions" transferred to International 5 are still there, continuing to bully residents every day, having 12/16 years more seniority and experience. Unfortunately, their only priority in life is this; having no real life, they live only for this game and achieve fulfillment by bullying those who are much younger than them. But when will you bring them back to their original server as promised two months ago? How long will this stupid bullying behavior be allowed by CRATR and its representatives? As usual, I will not have an answer, but I will always continue to remember the facts and situations for what they are.

p_b
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Posted May 25, 2026, 1:56 p.m.

stop spamming the forum with new posts every couple of days saying the same shit. It's getting boring for the rest of us.

Not defending CRATR here (as this has gone on too long already) - but this is being dealt with by CVD (Patti confirmed on discord) so if the big boss can't tell people when or why, then no-one else in the community can either.

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Nimoe
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Posted May 25, 2026, 4:22 p.m.

Not defending CRATR here (as this has gone on too long already) - but this is being dealt with by CVD (Patti confirmed on discord) so if the big boss can't tell people when or why, then no-one else in the community can either.

It would be helpful if the admins could perhaps also provide an update here on the forum regarding this matter, since not everyone is on Discord.

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Nimoe
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Posted May 25, 2026, 9:14 p.m.
Edited by Nimoe May 30, 2026, 6:04 p.m.

I don't even know what Discord is. Is it mandatory to know? Does the rules require it?

No, that isn't strictly necessary, Apulus. Unfortunately, however, information is more likely to be disclosed there than here on the forum—and regrettably, the admins there seemingly fail to take into account that not everyone is on Discord.

APULUS
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Posted May 25, 2026, 7:42 p.m.

I don't even know what Discord is. Is it mandatory to know? Does the rules require it?

Heroe
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Posted May 25, 2026, 2:30 p.m.
Edited by Heroe May 25, 2026, 2:31 p.m.

Stop this spam man, wth...
Open a support ticket if you want something

APULUS
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Posted May 25, 2026, 7:41 p.m.

I've opened two tickets with no response. I'll keep writing until justice is done. It's my right. Or is there a dictatorship here too and I haven't noticed?

J@sny
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Posted May 25, 2026, 8:41 p.m.

Funny how you're preaching about rules and justice while struggling with the most basic one yourself — not spamming. The irony is almost impressive.

Even bringing up dictatorship and “your rights” to justify spamming any thread on the forum — you are something man :)

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Pitty1980
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Posted May 26, 2026, 12:18 p.m.

It’s really funny how you guys accuse others of not following the rules... while other players in the forum are insulted and threatened—completely unhindered by CRATR—by those very same people, or have some shitty YouTube links with "bite-links" shoved in their faces, and yet nothing happens to them... but hey, as long as you preach water .... while drinking wine.

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APULUS
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Posted May 26, 2026, 2:46 p.m.

I agree with you - I'm very happy to see that I'm not alone and that there are other honest and sane people who think like me.

APULUS
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Posted May 26, 2026, 10:52 a.m.

Remember, "champion," that as long as a person tells the Truth, they can repeat it endlessly; in fact, they have a DUTY to repeat it until it is learned and applied. Do you understand these things?

J@sny
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Posted May 26, 2026, 11:13 a.m.

Do you always talk like a rejected movie villain monologue? This is the real world, not some fantasy quest. Those pseudo-deep pompous lines are impossible to take seriously. This delusion is so far gone it’s not even worth reading anymore. Farewell

APULUS
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Posted May 26, 2026, 11:47 a.m.

Real world? What would it be? Where injustice triumphs? I understand that you like this kind of world, but it's not the right one. Then karma puts everything right, don't worry. That's how life works. In the end, every king will be placed on his throne and every clown in his circus.

Lightning1
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Posted May 30, 2026, 5:24 p.m.

lol again? 🤣! how about just the joy of playing?
For example I'm into KF INT1 and I'm a very low level, and?
Just stop complaining every 3 days, if they were moved it's because players asked it. I remember it is possible to move a character to other servers.
Spam the same topic isn't allowed, time ago if you did like that you get a warning about it (there was search button for topics).
@Patti or someone else: please kindly mute him?
It's enough...

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Nimoe
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Posted May 30, 2026, 6 p.m.
Edited by Nimoe May 30, 2026, 7:46 p.m.

This post is from May 25th.

Last commented on May 26th.

Comments like this one of yours—posted in a thread that has essentially been dormant for four or five days—contribute absolutely nothing to de-escalating the situation; rather, they merely reignite old disputes. In fact, your comment could very well be perceived in precisely this light—and viewed in that way, it constitutes spam. Ultimately, you are no better than those you are accusing of doing exactly this.

Furthermore, you should take a closer look at the entire context of the situation.

APULUS
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Posted May 31, 2026, 6:34 p.m.

For this know-it here: I too asked for a transfer and was rejected. Why did some people get it (despite being 16 years older than residents) and others didn't? Can this know-it-all explain it to me?

Patti CRATR.games
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Posted June 1, 2026, 7:03 p.m.

Please be friendly and respectful towards one another.

Why did some people get it (despite being 16 years older than residents) and others didn't? Can this know-it-all explain it to me?

@APULUS

The reason was actually stated in the ticket system.
Please check the ticket dated 21 January 2026 again.

Best regards, Patti

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Vendetta7
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Posted June 2, 2026, 8:37 a.m.

Dear Patti, since you did not answer my question in the ticket that I opened and that you closed, I take this opportunity to propose it to you here: Why have more than 10 players been moved to INT5 and my request to move has been rejected?

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Patti CRATR.games
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Posted June 2, 2026, 6:23 p.m.

Hello,

We have already answered this in your ticket 7671.

Best regards, Patti

Vendetta7
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Posted June 3, 2026, 10:27 a.m.

Dear Patti, I'll answer you here because you have removed the possibility of commenting on your answer.Please don't go to high school and if the questions put you in trouble it's not my fault.
I report below your answer to my ticket so that everyone can read.

"Hello,

Thank you for your interest, but unfortunately we are currently not upgrading any game accounts to int 5. Only int 1 to int 4 are currently available."

The answer is given after over 10 characters have been moved into int5. Do you mean to tell me that the rule applies only to me?

Nimoe
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Posted June 3, 2026, 11:42 a.m.
Edited by Nimoe June 3, 2026, 11:55 a.m.

@Vendetta

The once quite active server INT 5 was scrapped earlier this year and, after about five months, is now just as dead as INT 6.

The answer is given after over 10 characters have been moved into int5. Do you mean to tell me that the rule applies only to me?

No, this rule didn't just apply to you, but also to others who wanted to switch to INT 5. The skill builds of the transferred accounts were excessively high compared to the original accounts native to server INT 5, and the migration to these servers was premature. None of the original players on servers INT 5 had any desire to continue playing under these circumstances.

Followed by a new review process.

Patti has already addressed this below and explained why no further transfers to Server 5 are taking place.
Here is an excerpt from that.:

Patti CRATR.games

Veröffentlicht 2. Juni 2026 19:32

Hello,

That’s completely wrong. Quite apart from the fact that he can’t close any servers (game worlds) at all, and all game worlds are currently open, I think what you mean is that we’ve stopped players from transferring from other game worlds to int5.

And no, it wasn’t just him who voiced his criticism; many other players did too, and not just via the forum but also through the ticket system and by email.
We subsequently reviewed and discussed everything again and came to the conclusion that int5 simply isn’t ready yet to transfer other game accounts there.
However, this has nothing to do with any one person, but rather with many people and an internal discussion.

we’re happy to look into things following criticism, and we do sometimes change our minds if the criticism is justified – and that’s certainly the case with the int5 / int6 issue.

the accounts that have been moved will either be moved back or, if requested, transferred to one of the other int worlds.
But they won't be deleted.

I would like to ask all parties once again – no matter how disappointed, upset, angry or otherwise you may feel – to be kind to one another and to please behave in accordance with the rules.

JDA
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Posted June 2, 2026, 9:50 a.m.

Dear Patti, since you did not answer my question in the ticket that I opened and that you closed, I take this opportunity to propose it to you here: Why have more than 10 players been moved to INT5 and my request to move has been rejected?

@ Vendetta7– you're absolutely right. You should also have a right to transfer account INT 5. I personally know many players who wanted to play on INT 5 but decided to resign, because CRATR started rejecting other players' applications.

If you haven't read the forum discussions, I can briefly explain what happened.

INT 5 was opened like any other old server. Just like INT 4 and other servers in 2024. 1.5 later was a time for INT 5.

Unfortunately, one player destroyed and completely destroyed INT 5. It was Apulus (Jacques de Molay). He wanted to transfer an absurdly monstrous account from INT 1 – level 350, with stats of 900. An account 3x stronger than the best player on INT 5. Of course, CRATR refused because they felt the account wasn't suitable for the server.

At that point, Apulus (Jacques de Molay) decided to take revenge and have INT 5 shut down and delete the accounts of everyone who transferred there. He launched a massive spam campaign on the forum, creating 20 threads, and sending out tons of messages to all players asking them to support him on the forum.

And he won. His revenge won. Unable to dominate INT 5 with his monstrous INT 1 account, he led the server to destruction.

The problem is that CRATR is succumbing to brawlers, radicals, and fanatics. That's why things like this are possible here.

For this reason, Vendetta7, your transfer to INT 5 has been rejected. I'm sorry. It's CRATR's fault.

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Pitty1980
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Posted June 2, 2026, 11:45 a.m.

You like the sound of your own voice, don't you? You're doing the very things you accuse others of doing yourselves... all your accounts should be checked... you swap accounts like other people change their underwear... if you hadn't gone overboard... there probably wouldn't have been such a fuss if you weren't just annoying 90% of the player base... and you especially.

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LeMaitre
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Posted June 2, 2026, 12:13 p.m.

Exactement, car à la diférence , nous on ne trichais pas, mais on "génait "sur le s7 int.

LeMaitre
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Posted June 2, 2026, 12:06 p.m.

salut "JDA",
tu es le premier à "cracher" sur les autres joueurs et maintenant, tu te plaind? XD
Toi et Patti, c'est le "monde à l'envers".

eric-reiter@orange.fr
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Posted June 2, 2026, 12:06 p.m.

Qand à moi, j'avais demandé un transfert de personnage sur le s5 int, mais on m'a répondu que ce n'était pas possible, ce jeu n'est que du favoritisme et de magouilles de la pars de certains administrateurs: rien d'autre à ajouter, ils n'en valent pas la peine.

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Pitty1980
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Posted June 2, 2026, 12:23 p.m.

That's how it is... and if I were to write what I really think... I'd get a permaban.

Patti CRATR.games
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Posted June 2, 2026, 7:32 p.m.

Hello,

At that point, Apulus (Jacques de Molay) decided to take revenge and have INT 5 shut down and delete the accounts of everyone who transferred there. He launched a massive spam campaign on the forum, creating 20 threads, and sending out tons of messages to all players asking them to support him on the forum.

That’s completely wrong. Quite apart from the fact that he can’t close any servers (game worlds) at all, and all game worlds are currently open, I think what you mean is that we’ve stopped players from transferring from other game worlds to int5.
And no, it wasn’t just him who voiced his criticism; many other players did too, and not just via the forum but also through the ticket system and by email.
We subsequently reviewed and discussed everything again and came to the conclusion that int5 simply isn’t ready yet to transfer other game accounts there.
However, this has nothing to do with any one person, but rather with many people and an internal discussion.

It is also incorrect to say that Apalus’s game accounts were deleted; he was not deleted from int7 at all, as claimed.
It is true that he has started a lot of threads, and yes, that is against the rules, but it is also against the rules to name users and make false claims.

The problem is that CRATR is succumbing to brawlers, radicals, and fanatics. That's why things like this are possible here.

That’s completely wrong too; we’re happy to look into things following criticism, and we do sometimes change our minds if the criticism is justified – and that’s certainly the case with the int5 / int6 issue.

And the fact that Apalus is now having accounts deleted on int5 isn't right either; the accounts that have been moved will either be moved back or, if requested, transferred to one of the other int worlds.
But they won't be deleted.

I would like to ask all parties once again – no matter how disappointed, upset, angry or otherwise you may feel – to be kind to one another and to please behave in accordance with the rules.

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APULUS
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Posted June 3, 2026, 12:33 p.m.

Thanks for the clear and comprehensive explanations. Finally, a post that demonstrates justice and truth.

LeMaitre
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Posted June 5, 2026, 7:08 p.m.
Edited by LeMaitre June 5, 2026, 7:12 p.m.

Alors Patti, fait preuve de bienveillanec en ce qui nous concerne^^
Car, comme tu le dis "si bien"; CRATR subit "soi disant" les assauts des radiicaux, mais pour nous les [-666-] on nous fait de mème sur tous les serveurs!
Et qui plus est , tu ne réponds jamais à nos sujets!

So Patti, be kind to us^^
Because, as you say “so well”; CRATR is “supposedly” being attacked by radiucals, but for us [-666-] the same is being done to us on all the servers!
And what's more, you never respond to our topics!

Vendetta7
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Posted June 4, 2026, 6:38 p.m.

I understand but if the strength of the PC is also considered I would like to clarify one thing. I've been playing knight fight for a really long time and I also have a character on INT1 (Araba Fenice).

Some time ago many very strong players with skills much higher than mine were moved there. Following this step I could no longer leave golds as I did before because I am constantly attacked by various players who, despite having hundreds of levels less than me, can easily win because of their superior skills (due to a change in the randoms in the clashes, years ago this thing would have been impossible).

Despite this, I and others did not make a controversy and accepted this injustice because rules had been put in place for the passages. If I remember correctly we were not talking about skills but only about levels.

Now this thing about the strength of the character comes out. The one I wanted to transfer was not so much stronger than those present but respected the rule of level. I have the impression that the rules are unclear and when applied, they benefit some over others on equal terms.

This way of doing things does not seem right and correct to me.

Nimoe
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Posted June 2, 2026, 1:42 p.m.
Edited by Nimoe June 2, 2026, 2:36 p.m.

Unfortunately, one player destroyed and completely destroyed INT 5. It was Apulus (Jacques de Molay). He wanted to transfer an absurdly monstrous account from INT 1 – level 350, with stats of 900. An account 3x stronger than the best player on INT 5. Of course, CRATR refused because they felt the account wasn't suitable for the server.

At that point, Apulus (Jacques de Molay) decided to take revenge and have INT 5 shut down and delete the accounts of everyone who transferred there. He launched a massive spam campaign on the forum, creating 20 threads, and sending out tons of messages to all players asking them to support him on the forum.

What kind of completely fabricated nonsense is this?

I simply cannot understand the admins: they fail to ban this player—who repeatedly violates the rules here (see below)—yet they react whenever another player brings up the same topic too frequently.

The insulting and completely fabricated smear campaigns directed against the player "Apulus" are tolerated here, whereas other threads are locked immediately if they make allusions to specific nationalities.

It appears, then, that bullying directed at individual players is permitted by the administrators, as there are several such threads on this site where veritable smear campaigns are being waged against specific individuals.

Or do the rules listed below not apply to all players equally?

11.1
Smear campaigns and attempts to manipulate public opinion targeting other portal or forum users are strictly prohibited. Exceptions to this rule are permitted within the context of RPG (role-playing game) threads, provided there is mutual consent and that the bounds of good taste are not exceeded.
11.2
Allusions to, as well as the explicit naming of, other forum members in one's own posts are prohibited if such references are defamatory or insulting.
11.5
Posts must not contain game-relevant information (player names, User IDs, statistics, private messages, etc.) unless the player named in the post has explicitly consented to its publication. Such consent must be clearly indicated within the post in question. In the absence of such consent, any relevant details must be redacted.

Server transfers to INT 1 through 4 only became possible in 2024—at which point the servers themselves were already around 10 years old (dating back to 2014). Meanwhile, Server INT 5 dates back to 2020, and Server INT 6 to 2024. You simply cannot compare these things; surely, no one can seriously be so obtuse as to lump them all together.

Unfortunately, one player destroyed and completely destroyed INT 5.

That is a lie on your part.

In reality, it was the transfer accounts that completely destroyed the INT 5 server within just five months. not that single player.

this accounts attacked everything there indiscriminately simply because you could—thanks to your high-level transfer accounts, against which the original accounts on INT 5 stood absolutely no chance. So do not twist the facts here—something you do all too often.

Furthermore, some players wanted to switch to Server 5 because they thought: "If they can do it, we can do it too." However, they were unaware that these transfer accounts were fundamentally incompatible with the server. Unlike you, though, they accepted the decision that such transfers had taken place prematurely.

This is something that, unfortunately, was never explained by CRATR. Why, starting in January, were a select few—presumably hand-picked—players allowed to transfer to INT 5, when just a short time prior, such transfers had been categorically rejected?

Those players were forced to transfer to servers INT 1 through 4 instead.

Does CRATR even realize the general repercussions this can trigger—specifically for all those players who, just a short while earlier, were forced to transfer to servers 1 through 4 because INT 5 and 6 were not available options? Only to have permission for servers INT 5 and 6 granted later on—and in a completely unofficial manner, at that?

APULUS
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Posted June 2, 2026, 3:31 p.m.

Dear JDA ,
I've opened another ticket against you. Someone will have to explain to me why you're allowed to name forum members and even account names and go unpunished. They'll also have to explain to me why you're allowed to insult and slander and never be punished. But I think everyone knows why by now and gives your words their full weight.

JDA
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Posted June 2, 2026, 4:17 p.m.

Keep deluding yourselves that you lost three INT 7 accounts "accidentally." Such things never happen.

You demand the deletion of our INT 5 accounts - we (Fair Players) are checking your INT 7 accounts. As fraudsters, you lost those accounts. This is real justice.

Don't you think that the INT 5 situation will end if we are kicked from INT 5? It will be quite the opposite. We've already deleted three of your INT 7 accounts. You're already clicking "surrender" on INT 7 every day. And players from Turkey have announced your fate on INT 8.

As you can see, we are reliable and consistent.

The next step will be to check Apulus's INT 1 account, which was purchased for real money, which is against the rules. Twenry114 wrote extensively about this here:
https://moonid.net/forums/topic/7594/?page=2

I confirm that Apulus's INT 1 account was offered to many players before he bought it.
Do you want us to continue this thread? I warn you, it will end in a massive account deletion.

We, Real and Fair Players, still have many opportunities to play with you on various servers, and I reiterate that we will never give up. We will not let you decide who can play INT 5. We will never relent. The example of INT 7 should be clear to you.

A small (but vocal) group of weak players (as the INT 6 champion from Turkey said) will not terrorize the entire KnightFight world.

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APULUS
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Posted June 2, 2026, 5:33 p.m.

ahahah You've finally come clean. Just reread what you wrote to understand that you're part of the administrators. It's good that everyone knows this. When you say, "We'll delete you," only a child wouldn't understand how things really are. But I've been saying this for a long time, I understood it right away. This explains why, despite the insults, slander, and so many open tickets, you're still there. At least now everyone knows... congratulations!

Nimoe
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Posted June 2, 2026, 5:49 p.m.
Edited by Nimoe June 2, 2026, 8:40 p.m.

Keep deluding yourselves that you lost three INT 7 accounts "accidentally." Such things never happen.

You demand the deletion of our INT 5 accounts - we (Fair Players) are checking your INT 7 accounts. As fraudsters, you lost those accounts. This is real justice.

Let's be honest:

All this turmoil started with you . Before that, we enjoyed years of peace and quiet.

So stop constantly twisting the facts, you troublemaker.

You troll incessantly and get on everyone's nerves with your false claims.

You dig up the most absurd nonsense—so much so that you’ve honestly earned yourself a mandatory time-out.

But seriously: Cut it out with your threats, false claims, and other tall tales. Not a single person here believes the drivel you’re cooking up anymore.

I can confirm that the INT-1 account belonging to Apulus was offered to many players before he eventually bought it.

Accounts are paid for using Moon Coins, and Moon Coins represent real money.

Surely you acquired at least some of your transfer accounts by purchasing them with Moon Coins—and Moon Coins are obtained by spending real money. So, what exactly is the problem?

Viewed in that light, you effectively migrated to servers INT 5 and 6 using real money (via the purchase of Moon Coins)—and, strictly speaking, you did it all unofficially.

Why do we reject your wars?
Because you are simply annoying. We have no desire to deal with you any longer than necessary.
APULUS
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Posted June 2, 2026, 5:33 p.m.

You've finally come clean. Just reread what you wrote to understand that you're part of the administrators. It's good that everyone knows this. When you say, "We'll delete you," only a child wouldn't understand how things really are. But I've been saying this for a long time, I understood it right away. This explains why, despite the insults, slander, and so many open tickets, you're still there. At least now everyone knows... congratulations!

LeMaitre
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Posted June 2, 2026, 6:05 p.m.

*voilà ce que je viens de recevoir: *

Dispatch from Malandrin Shalk

Destinataire: [-666-] 𝕷𝖀𝕮𝕴𝕱𝕰𝕽
Date: 02.06.2026 17:50:52
Sujet:
They deleted your account, mate, haha

Message:

..

Retour à la boîte de réception Marquer comme non lu Supprimer Répondre

Si ça ce n'est pas se ficher du monde....

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APULUS
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Posted June 2, 2026, 6:20 p.m.

Malandrin Shalk, ce nom ne m'est pas inconnu… c'est toujours eux, toujours les mêmes… jamais punis, jamais effacés, libres d'insulter et de se moquer… oui, nous avons toujours tort.

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LeMaitre
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Posted June 5, 2026, 7:13 p.m.

Comme réponse, je n'ai eu que: il a subit un avertissement => vu ce qu'on me fait, je l'aurais exclus 1 mois! Voir banni!

As a response, I only got: he received a warning => given what was done to me, I would have excluded him for 1 month! See banned!

Twenry114
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Posted June 2, 2026, 9:59 p.m.

The only characters who attack me and whom I attack on INT5 are other transferred accounts—what kind of bullying are we talking about exactly...

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Nimoe
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Posted June 2, 2026, 10:18 p.m.

what kind of bullying are we talking about exactly...

11.1
Smear campaigns and attempts to manipulate public opinion targeting other portal or forum users are strictly prohibited. Exceptions to this rule are permitted within the context of RPG (role-playing game) threads, provided there is mutual consent and that the bounds of good taste are not exceeded.

11.2
Allusions to, as well as the explicit naming of, other forum members in one's own posts are prohibited if such references are defamatory or insulting.

11.5
Posts must not contain game-relevant information (player names, User IDs, statistics, private messages, etc.) unless the player named in the post has explicitly consented to its publication. Such consent must be clearly indicated within the post in question. In the absence of such consent, any relevant details must be redacted.


The admins have also agreed with me on this. However, this applies to quite a few users here. Smear campaigns involving public insults are not permitted in this forum. We really should just let the matter rest and not rehash it.

The admins will likely be issuing an official statement shortly regarding this perceived "Never-Ending Story – INT 5."

APULUS
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Posted June 3, 2026, 11:29 a.m.

A character born and built on another server in 2009 who attacks and continues to attack another character born and built in 2020 (11 years difference) is not bullying in your opinion? And who are you on International 5? Just to understand what you are talking about.

Slach
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Posted June 3, 2026, 1:36 p.m.
Edited by Slach June 3, 2026, 1:42 p.m.

Twenry114, don't you see what is happening? They don't care if you attack "the older palyers" on INT 5 or not. The only want to delete you, because they want to take control over the server.

Instead of open battle server, take session of 400 fights, make 10-12 lvls they choose to make coflicts. This is easier for them to make argue than lvl up their knights.

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Nimoe
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Posted June 3, 2026, 2:12 p.m.

He can only attack the transferred accounts because there are no other original accounts on this server that he could attack without suffering an XP penalty. His transferred account is too high-level compared to most of the original accounts there. What is so hard to understand about that?

Are you on INT 5? Are you in a position to judge? So stop with your conspiracy theories and just let it go already.

You are just constantly reigniting these discussions here.

Just read what Patti wrote about it. He explained everything there.

APULUS
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Posted June 3, 2026, 11:29 a.m.

A character born and built on another server in 2009 who attacks and continues to attack another character born and built in 2020 (11 years difference) is not bullying in your opinion? And who are you on International 5? Just to understand what you are talking about.

Slach
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Posted June 3, 2026, 1:34 p.m.

Patti, I read your post and I think you're deeply mistaken. Furthermore, you're taking a very confrontational approach, as seen with French players (Eric and his family) and the player
JDA, who expresses the views of many of us.

You're ignoring the fact that the vast majority of players don't and won't participate in the arguments you and the entire CRATR community are instigating. We want to play in peace and calm.

Turkish players told you they wouldn't have to explain their transfer to INT 5 to anyone because it was their private matter. You, on the other hand, think they don't exist and have no right to decide the fate of the game because they don't want to participate in the argument. Absurd.

I might believe that "many" people are demanding the revocation of INT 5 transfers if I didn't personally know many players who have openly embraced INT 5.

Invoking tribal democracy is a weak idea, but perhaps we should conduct a survey. The same as when choosing a server name. Let's ask the question: "Do you support opening INT 5 to new transfers?" Anyone with a moonID created no more than two months ago will participate in the vote (to prevent manipulation of the results).

We'll count the votes. This way, we'll gauge the real player sentiment without avoiding extremes. Do you have the courage to do this? CRATR?

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Nimoe
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Posted June 3, 2026, 2:32 p.m.

@Slach

Let's just drop it now...

A vote like this should have taken place before accounts were moved to INT 5—not afterwards, once the server had already been ruined by this premature transfer operation and the damage was already done.

That should go without saying.

You launch surveys like this in advance—and that simply didn't happen with INT 5. When transfers were opened up for INT 1 through 4, they were properly announced. Even back then, players should have had the opportunity to cast a veto—to say whether or not they were actually okay with those transfers to servers 1 through 4. I can't judge whether that actually happened, as I wasn't around to witness it myself.

Furthermore, it is completely unacceptable for the original players of INT 5 to be constantly insulted, told how they ought to play, or have their accounts disparaged—especially by the very people who arrived on INT 5 with their transferred accounts. That kind of behavior is hardly conducive to encouraging the original INT 5 players to stick around and keep playing; nor is it fair to them.

Everyone should be free to play—and build their account—however they see fit, without letting themselves be swayed by condescending comments from people who, simply because they arrived with a transferred account, think they have the right to dictate what a "proper" game account is supposed to look like. The decision lies with you alone, not with them. And when I say that, I’m not referring to all players with transferred accounts—only to the specific individuals who seem to think it’s their place to put some of us down by criticizing how "bad" our accounts are. It just leaves me shaking my head in disbelief. I don't give a damn what other people's accounts look like—it’s their account, their game, and their decision.

And if a server transfer was offered prematurely—and done so completely unofficially, without any prior announcements or surveys—then the balance simply must be restored.

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Slach
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Posted June 5, 2026, 4:55 p.m.

Nimoe, that's your opinion. Many people think that INT 5 isn't a new server and should be treated like INT 1-4. If you're protesting against opening servers, you should do so in the spring of 2024. If it was announced that INT 1-4 would be affected by the changes, it was obvious that INT 5 would be included.

Nimoe
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Posted June 5, 2026, 7:11 p.m.

Servers 1 through 4 don't concern me;
I know that transfers to servers 5 and 6 weren't even possible up to and including the end of 2025. During the first wave of transfers, I asked on the German forum and was told that moves were only possible to servers 1 through 4. I responded by saying that if I was expected to pay 3,499 MoinCoins for it (which was the initial price for transfers), I wanted the freedom to choose where I could move.


No chance to move to other servers.

So, you can't simply assume that servers 5 and 6 are open for transfers when that option isn't being offered at all.

Neither you nor I can decide that; it’s entirely up to CRATR, and I find it quite surprising that you take it for granted.

Those transfers to INT 5 were premature, and there is no need for any retrospective surveys now.

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