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GarlWar
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Posted Aug. 20, 2025, 12:08 a.m.
Edited by GarlWar Aug. 20, 2025, 12:47 a.m.

Spear shall be shakenπŸͺ“ ,shield shall be splinteredπŸ›‘οΈ!

Let this fragment be the slogan πŸ“£ of the first great war on the newest server – INT 7 🌍 .

βš”οΈ Battle of the Nationsβš”οΈ : **POLAND πŸ‡΅πŸ‡± vs. GERMANY πŸ‡©πŸ‡ͺ **

On August 29th AD 2025 launches new serwer. As players from Poland, we invite you – our friends from Germany 🀝 – to join us on the new server, and continuing a tradition that dates back over 13 years 🌠 .

Polish vs German war is nothing new in the world of KnightFight. Such wars have been taking place for over a decade πŸ‘¨β€πŸ‘©β€πŸ‘¦

To remind you gloryπŸ’‘of the old days πŸŽ‰ of KnightFight , I'd like to draw your attention to Anno Domino 2012 πŸŽ† and arguably the biggest PL vs GER war:

🎯 over 80 knights πŸ₯Š from Poland
🎯 over 70 knights πŸ₯Š from Germany
🎯 12 600 fights πŸ—‘οΈ in 7 days βŒ› ...
🎯 1 800 fights πŸ—‘οΈ every day 🌞 ...
🎯 75 fights πŸ—‘οΈ every hour ⏲️ ...
🎯 over 50 000 000 damage 🦾 🦾 🦾

Can you imagine such a battle nowadays πŸ€ͺ πŸ˜‰ Memorabilia πŸŽ—οΈ from this war can be found on the private Polish KF Wikipedia (data, numbers, list of fighters, posts from year 2012):
https://kfinfo.blogspot.com/2012/12/wielka-bitwa-knightfight-zakonczona.html
https://kfinfo.blogspot.com/2012/12/wielka-bitwa-polsko-niemiecka.html

The latest proposal for a Polish vs. German war was submitted by the German side 1.5 years ago, at the beginning of the INT 6 server launch. As we know, this event was not a success πŸ˜₯ No one consulted this event with the Polish side beforehand. The "PL" guild (probably made by German players) suddenly appeared on INT 6 and no one of polish players knew what was going on. After 3 weeks of this strange situation, the Polish side asked the German side about their plans and simultaneously proposed a help in organization. Unfortunately, at that point (4 weeks after the server launched), the German side was no longer interested in a PL vs. GER war.

Regardless of the above, the Polish side expresses respect 🫑 and appreciation πŸ‘ to the German πŸ‡©πŸ‡ͺ side 🀝 for taking the initiative ✌️.

Over 1 year ago the initiative came from the GER side. This year, we want to reverse the order. This time, Polish side issues the challenge. We present you with two naked swords βš”οΈ . May they inspire you to fight. Let's do it together 🀝 . This year, we have plenty of time. There are still almost 40 days until the war.

TECHNICAL DETAILSπŸ‘¨β€πŸ”§ πŸ”§

Our proposal is as follows πŸͺΆ :

➑️ 1. The war will begin 30 days πŸ—“οΈ after the server launch, probably 28th September - 5th October AD 2025.

➑️ 2. Each team will have a minimum of 10 players ☝️ . PL - 10, GER - 10. We believe that wars with fewer than 10 players are pointless, as this is a war where one person decides the outcome. The more players, the more fair is a result.

➑️ 3. Each team (PL and GER) operates autonomously 🏳️ , meaning that the selection of team members is a completely internal matter.

➑️ 4. Each team will appoint a captain πŸ‘‘ , who, if necessary, will contact the opposing team captain regarding current matters. We want to ensure a line of communication πŸ“¨ .

➑️ 5. The Polish side will declare war πŸƒβ€β™‚οΈ as the initiator of the event .

There may be questions about whether other players can participate. The answer is: each team operates autonomously. If the PL or GER team captain agrees to accept you into their own team, you are welcome.

The goal of the event is to have fun and enjoy the game together πŸ‘ ✌️ πŸ’ͺ

If anyone is already interested in participating, please comment which team you'd like to be a part of by # [PL] or [GER].

This event is a initiative by a group of players from Poland. For now, we can tell you that WALDAN πŸ‘‘ will be the captain of the Polish team.

First and foremost, we're asking for feedback from our friends from Germany. This year, we have plenty of time to organize a war – almost 40 days left until the planned event. Let's do it together.

If there are enough participants, we might be able to organize a 15 vs. 15 war, or even a 20 vs. 20 war πŸ˜‰

I hope see you on the battle field! βš”οΈ

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Kajsaka
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Posted Aug. 20, 2025, 7:07 p.m.
Edited by Kajsaka Aug. 20, 2025, 7:09 p.m.

#PL Anasazi

GarlWar
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Posted Aug. 20, 2025, 12:16 a.m.
Edited by GarlWar Aug. 20, 2025, 12:17 a.m.

Maybe I'll start: # PL

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Nimoe
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Posted Aug. 20, 2025, 1:30 p.m.
Edited by Nimoe Aug. 21, 2025, 7:02 a.m.

German ^^

Now difficult to realise, as it is an international server, the players in the guilds will also have different nations. And everyone should be welcome in a guild, no matter which nation they represent. That goes without saying.

So this probably didn't work on INT Server 6 back then, because there will never be guilds that only have German members, or only Polish members. there are mixed guilds. E.g. German guild leader but Polish, Russian, American, English members. In my opinion, this would only be possible across servers, not on an international server, unless, for example, only German, only Polish, only Russian, only English guilds are formed, where only members of this nation are represented. If I have forgotten a nation, then a big sorry at this point :)

If I then join a Polish guild as a German member, who do I represent in a guild war without conflicts of conscience when it is then said β€˜the Germans have lost?’ ^^

But if such unified guilds are formed, I wish you every success with your endeavour :)

sorry, no interest

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GarlWar
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Posted Aug. 20, 2025, 7:57 p.m.

Welcome on the board!

Good points. Generally, I think we all agree. The idea of competing through national teams (in this case, Poland and Germany) is symbolic, and of course, anyone can participate. Captain approval makes sense because some players can cooperate, while others can't. The captain ensures that the team works as a unified whole.

Personally, I hope that players from other countries will also want to join; the bigger the war, the more interesting it is. ;)

In my opinion, the division into Poland and Germany teams stems from several reasons:

  1. the idea is to find a common denominator for a certain group of players, namely nationality, and that is a common thread;
  2. the two largest communities in KnightFight are Poland and Germany, so it's quite easy to assemble a team. It's purely practical;
  3. there's a long tradition of such competitions, with both teams competing as Poland and Germany;
  4. both sides have accepted this format so far. For DE 15 and INT 6 the proposal was submitted by the German side.
UnderCloud
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Posted Aug. 20, 2025, 4:13 p.m.

You can take me in if you want, player from PL, so PL side obviously :)

Pitty1980
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Posted Aug. 20, 2025, 10:01 p.m.

i'm in for the german team ;)

NocnySokol
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Posted Aug. 20, 2025, 11:31 p.m.

Count me in :)

Ostaszewianin
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Posted Aug. 21, 2025, 9:12 p.m.
  1. The war will begin 30 days πŸ—“οΈ after the server launch, probably 28th September - 5th October AD 2025.

I have a feeling the server won't be up and running by then :) There was supposed to be a vote (after August 12th) for the server name, but they haven't figured it out yet. They also postponed the s6 server for 3 months, so... :)

Waldan71
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Posted Aug. 21, 2025, 11:46 p.m.

Good evening everyone!
Let's save lives on KF! :)
Competition in the form of guild wars, or in this case, server wars, is the true essence of this game.
I suggest including "Poland and Friends" and "Germany and Friends" in the guild names. The history of these wars goes back over a decade. Everyone is welcome!
I will, of course, join the Polish ranks with "PL" on my chest :)

Waldan.

Rafael1996
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Posted Aug. 22, 2025, 9:48 a.m.

I would love to defeat the Germans, like in the good old days. Let's fight, Poland!

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Nimoe
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Posted Aug. 23, 2025, 4:30 p.m.
Edited by Nimoe Aug. 25, 2025, 12:49 p.m.

I would love to defeat the Germans

keep dreaming :)

diesel75blau
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Posted Aug. 22, 2025, 10:07 a.m.

no interest

Viking
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Posted Aug. 22, 2025, 9:48 p.m.

What about french, english, spanish, portuguese, italian players and others countries ?πŸ™‚

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GarlWar
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Posted Aug. 23, 2025, 12:04 a.m.

Of course, you are welcome.

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Viking
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Posted Aug. 23, 2025, 9:09 a.m.

πŸ‘

GarlWar
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Posted Sept. 21, 2025, 1:32 a.m.
Edited by GarlWar Sept. 21, 2025, 1:36 a.m.

UPDATE ❕ ❗

Date πŸ—“οΈ: September 28th - October 5th AD
Location 🌍 : INT 7
Minimum number of knights per team 🦾: 15
Days left βŒ›: almost 8 (post written at night)

JUSTIFICATION

The war was announced here for September 28th - October 5th AD 2025. Of course, we all know that the server launch has been delayed multiple times. Regardless, we would like to maintain this date.

There are almost 8 days left until the war. Everyone still has time to strengthen their knight.

The original proposal was for a 15 vs. 15 war, or 20 vs. 20. We want each team to have the same number of knights. The Polish side is proposing 20 vs. 20, but we realize this may pose an organizational problem for the other side. Therefore, we can stick with 15. Of course, you can use support from players from other countries; the competition is open. The Polish side has accepted all applications from players from other countries, and so far, none have been rejected.

If anyone is interested and would like to apply for either side, please contact us on INT 7:

  • Polish team: guild [PL SH]
  • German team: guild [-WAR-]

See you on the battlefield in 8 days! 28th September Polish side will declare war.

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Pitty1980
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Posted Sept. 21, 2025, 9:21 p.m.

So we hope all the great mooncoin skiller from polen will join this great guilt .. sword greetimg

Nimoe
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Posted Sept. 21, 2025, 9:40 p.m.

(German)

Not interested, still not, ;)

πŸ™‚β€β†”οΈ
GarlWar
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Posted Sept. 22, 2025, 2:15 a.m.

@ PItty1988

Your statement suggests that Polish players' accounts are being built with mooncoins. You don't mention German players, so I assume this doesn't apply to them? ;) Your thesis is quite bold. Observing INT 6 and INT 7, I have a slightly different opinion ;)

In any case, a large war – 15 vs. 15 or 20 vs. 20 – forces team play, not individual play. Perhaps in small wars (5 vs. 5), one or two players can determine the outcome of the entire war. In larger wars, the odds are comparable.

@ Nimoe
Are you speaking on behalf of all GER players? You've already stated that you don't want to participate, and everyone knows it ;)

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Nimoe
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Posted Sept. 22, 2025, 8:15 a.m.
Edited by Nimoe Sept. 22, 2025, 8:23 a.m.

It's quite possible that some German players see it the same way I do. There may also be some who are interested, provided they handle the skill set in the same way as you, for example. But on the whole, you'll probably have to drag this battle out. You won't be able to do it that quickly.

I would drag it out until mid to late October, otherwise it won't work. Ultimately, the new game world is no different from the others before it.

The glorious days we remember from the old servers are unfortunately over. The new game world won't be able to change that either. <---- Probably.

Everything is still open.

And yes, some German players do skill up in this way, no question, but someone who approaches the game normally has no interest in such wars. And that's what I wanted to say. In this respect, everything has really stayed the same, and everyone is free to do so. But when there is such an imbalance from the outset, you quickly lose interest in this new game world, because you would be forced to β€˜buy’ the skills in order to keep up to some extent. When I look at the skills there, it takes a lot longer to achieve them by normal means. So why would you wage war against a completely overskilled guild? Nobody does that. So most guilds will keep themselves as small as possible so that they don't get into such unbalanced battles. Logical, right?

Pitty1980
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Posted Sept. 22, 2025, 2:22 p.m.
Edited by Pitty1980 Sept. 22, 2025, 3:01 p.m.

I'm not suggesting anything, I'm stating... the majority of Polish high-level players have boosted their accounts with hundreds of euros and are celebrating their incompetence in doing so in a playful way.

like Nimoe said, you drag us in these war, without to talk anybody... for me ... you wont a real fight ...

sorry for my bad english

GarlWar
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Posted Sept. 22, 2025, 8:02 p.m.

In response, I'll start with Pitta's very interesting comment.

"The majority of Polish high-level players have boosted their accounts with hundreds of euros."

I believe that everyone has the right to their own opinions and beliefs, as well as to express them publicly. However, opinions should be based on facts. There are no such Polish players on any server in this game, including INT 7. Perhaps you think that every strong player is a hidden Pole ;) That sounds like a compliment ;) Seriously, I could even offer you that if you show me such players, I'll buy you 20,000 coins. And if you don't find them, you buy them for me. Are you interested? ;) It's easy to throw words around, but it's harder to take responsibility for them.

On INT 6, the entire guild starting with the letter "W" had a skill level of 60-100 on the first day of the server. These weren't Polish players, but from another country, and guess which one, because I think you're speaking the same language ;) No Polish player has publicly complained about this or made any accusations. Besides, I think bidding on who spent how much on their weapons or stats is pointless. It doesn't contribute anything constructive.

In response to Nimoe: I've written many times on the forum that if you start the game with high stats, the difference between players will increase over time, not decrease. That's how the battle server system works.

Besides, in a month or a month and a half, half of the active players will stop playing (that's life), and the other half will skyrocket in level thanks to BS. There will be a huge level gap between players, and then there won't be any level playing field. Not to mention the fact that in INT 6, most of the best German players quit the game very quickly, and their excellent guild later ceased to exist.

Therefore, the most optimal date (there is no ideal date here) is September 28th.

Nimoe
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Posted Sept. 22, 2025, 8:55 p.m.
Edited by Nimoe Sept. 22, 2025, 9:06 p.m.

I've written many times on the forum that if
you start the game with high stats, the difference between players will
increase over time, not decrease. That's how the battle server system
works.

Did I claim the opposite? I don't think so. I've been playing KF for a while now, though not as intensively as some others might be ^^ I know the guild you're referring to, and yes, there are different nations represented there. They declare war on you, and you surrender because, as a β€˜NORMAL’ guild, you're not interested in that kind of thing, and that's fine. They then win a war by surrendering, but that's no fun. It's boring. It's interesting when you meet on equal terms (in terms of skill, among other things) and we fight such wars to the bitter end, for example. Everything else is a waste of time. And I would like to point out once again that this is never directed at Polish players, but that nothing has changed in this regard compared to the old servers. This imbalance itself is evident across all nations. So please don't get me wrong.

Therefore, the most optimal date (there is no ideal date here) is September 28th.

too early, you may not be able to get enough together by then.

int 6 Steinhall is currently in intensive care, chances of survival are very slim, Steinhall will probably die out too, like many other servers before it, and as you already mentioned, it could also happen to Veligard. That's the way things go.

Twenry114
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Posted Sept. 22, 2025, 11:19 p.m.

I'm going to play Switzerland, remain neutral, and say β€œblame the game, not the players.” I'm the first to blame the existence of the option to exchange Mooncoins for Gold (I've argued with players about this enough, haha), but I did it myself. Because that's how it is, the option exists, and I wanted to compete in INT7, so I did it, even though I don't like the option. That's what I'm referring to when I say β€œblame the game, not the players.” The problem isn't that players use this option, the problem is that the option exist. Obviously, it favors players who are willing to invest certain amounts of money in the game (and let's not blame them for that either, because if players didn't spend a lot of money on the game, CRATR would have gone bankrupt and the KF servers would be shut down), and it pushes others to do the same in order to keep up.

However, I completely disagree with the statement that β€œonly Polish players did it.” I'm not going to bother naming names, as the aim is not to pillory people (remember that as long as the option officially exists in the game, we can't blame them for it; remember, blame the game, not the players...). But there are players of all nationalities who have spent money on statistics. French (myself), Polish, German, Mexican, Czech, English, etc., etc. I absolutely disagree with the statement β€œit's only the Poles.” Not everyone spent the same amount, but many, many spent a few dozen euros. Going on a witch hunt or specifically blaming the Poles for this is a bit lame. :)

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Nimoe
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Posted Sept. 23, 2025, 1:07 a.m.

No one here is saying that, as already mentioned, that's just how it is in general, and I see it the same way you do. The possibility exists, and that's okay, because somehow the whole thing has to be paid for. Even a game like this incurs running costs, and Cratr won't have kept this going for nothing. That's clear. It's just that those who don't do this are not interested in any server wars. When it came out that there was a new game world, many long-time German players gave up the game. Many had already done so before that. Why is no longer relevant.

And that's what it was referring to. This server war won't be able to take place anytime soon. Precisely because there are too few people on the server, but also because not everyone is interested in it. At least not yet. But new players are still joining, and that's something to keep an eye on. And then you can start something like that, provided you can find people who are interested.

So, once again:
**It was never claimed that only the Polish players are pushing themselves up; this is the case with all the nations represented. **

However, I know a few players on the new server who have already deactivated their accounts, some of them even deleted them, because they just weren't interested in something like that. Can everyone keep up at the front? Well, not really, if you play normally.

Many of the long-standing German players are no longer coming to the new server because they can't be bothered. You can read the reasons for this in the German forum.

Nevertheless, I wish you all the best and every success :)

GarlWar
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Posted Sept. 24, 2025, 12:07 a.m.

Polish team already has a full complement of players in various variants:

20 players

or

15 players

If the German team might have trouble finding enough players, we can reduce the squad proportionally, for example, 14 vs. 14, 13 vs. 13. This also works the other way around: 16 vs. 16, 18 vs. 18, etc.

ZuTyy-
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Posted Sept. 24, 2025, 3:15 p.m.

I will support you!

GarlWar
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Posted Sept. 25, 2025, 12:21 a.m.

Thank you. Which guild should WALDAN declare war on? How many people do you want to play with in your team? We're prepared for any scenario.

ZuTyy-
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Posted Sept. 25, 2025, 11:21 a.m.

Regarding your war β€œGER vs PL”

You wrote in your thread that -WAR- founded the German guild without talking to me. I am the founder and leader of the guild.
-WAR- is international, not just German.

This also explains why we had a few applications that we knew nothing about. This behavior is not acceptable.

If you want your war, you have to found a guild for the Germans, which we will then be happy to join. After all, I have assured you of my support.

But simply mentioning the -WAR- WARGUILD in the forum as a target for the Germans without consultation is not acceptable.

Let a guild be founded for the Germans; after all, you are the organizer, and we will then join.

GarlWar
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Posted Sept. 25, 2025, 12:41 p.m.

Just for the information of other players, ZuTyy is copying posts from another forum thread and pasting them randomly. That's probably why it's hard for most of you to understand.

Basically, five minutes before the train departs, meaning the start of the Polish vs. German war, ZuTyy (a German player) is literally bending over backwards to prevent this war from happening. He simply wants to capitulate, but is too embarrassed to say so publicly and is looking for some tricks to save face.

First, ZuTyy claims that the German side was completely unaware of this war. Which is absurd, because as everyone here can see, the forum thread was created over 30 days ago. Polish players have sent numerous private messages to German players on INT 1, INT 6, INT 7, on Discord, and on the German forum. It's hard to take ZuTyy's claims that we operate covertly and refuse to contact the German side seriously.

ZuTyy's second method for soft surrender. He started a thread in the "announcements" section, organizing another war and promising 100,000 mooncoins, thus claiming that our war has lost its purpose.

Interesting that these things started happening three days before the war began ;)

People are judged by their actions, not their words. If you want to surrender, say it directly; no one will hold it against you. Personally, I greatly respect and appreciate honest people. They deserve respect. However, I abhor lies and cheap intrigues.

30 days is a long time to prepare for war and assemble a team, especially since everyone is starting over on a new server.

No one is forcing you, ZuTyy, and your teammates to participate in the war. If you refuse, say it directly and honestly. Instead, you look for 10,000 reasons and excuses. Such behavior speaks louder than 1,000 words.

ZuTyy-
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Posted Sept. 25, 2025, 1:08 p.m.
Edited by ZuTyy- Sept. 25, 2025, 1:13 p.m.

Everything you wrote about me in your last post is not true.

One last time. I have already revealed enough information about my private life. I am honest and direct, and even tried to contact you when I found out that a GER vs. PL war was already being planned. Very bad timing on my part.

I only found out about your war two days ago because I have only recently started playing actively again. I immediately tried to contact you in-game to apologize for the timing and to support your war.

If you still want to wage this war, maybe we can do it with the heaven and hell guild., We want to fight with you and I support every event in this game. We all want the same thing.

No bad blood.

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Nimoe
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Posted Oct. 1, 2025, 7:31 p.m.
Edited by Nimoe Oct. 1, 2025, 7:36 p.m.

I have to agree with Zutyy on this one. He really didn't know anything about another war and thought there was only this one war between Heaven and Hell. Looks like you guys talked past each other. Maybe check the German forum under β€˜Announcements’ because that's where Zutyy wrote that he didn't know anything about it. To me, this here is all childish, but I wanted to mention it anyway.

look:

GarlWar
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Posted Sept. 25, 2025, 1:50 p.m.

If I haven't written anything untrue, then prove it to me with your actions.

Show me your GER team, which you assembled as the creator and founder of the largest German guild.

Which GER team will be fighting on September 28th at INT 7?

If you tell Polish players "I support you in organizing the event," and at the same time, you' are write that this event shouldn't take place because you prepere better one in other date, you show us lies and hypocrisy.

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Pitty1980
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Posted Sept. 25, 2025, 3:02 p.m.

You act really childish sorry, how old are you 10 ?

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