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I can use one of my guilds, maybe the "HELL" guild. how many players do you have for your guild?

i have to organize some player.

just give me a number

We also accept the compromise proposed by Twenryy114.

What do you think about 15 people on each team?

I have this initial list for the Polish team. Of course, it's been about three weeks since we received the application, so I'd have to talk again.

I think Poland will have 15 players without a problem.

I can try to invite 5 people more to our team, but let's assume a starting point of 15.

How many people do you want in the German team?

We could also do something like that. We'll determine the minimum team size until 20:00 tomorrow. If it turns out a larger war (15+) is possible, we'll let each other know here on the forum.

Shall we make a deal?

you can attack the guild "HELL".
i will try to find some people who are interested in a war.

Good morning, can we please be friendly again?
I think everyone here has one goal, and that is to have fun in the game.
And I think there will always be wars in a game, either simultaneously or staggered.
For example, we are not fans of the wars between ‘POLAND 🇵🇱 vs. GERMANY 🇩🇪’. That is why, for example, https://moonid.net/forums/topic/7481/
At the request of CRATR.games, the names have been changed.

In short, please return to a factual and friendly discussion :)

Thank you.

Well... at least there is some activity on the forum :D Could be more friendly, but any discussion is better than no discussion :D

Just make sure your arguments won't cause this event not to happen :) better have 2 wars than none.

I really don't care what it'll be called and how will the split between 2 teams look like :) It can be sheeps vs wolves, mooncoins vs gold, black vs white... just not 2h vs 1h please :D

POL vs GER is a bit narrowing it down to 2 nations. We know there are many players from other countries here. Let them have an option too and join the team of their choice :)

We can even do it EUROPE vs Rest of the World, so Zutty and Garl can fight in one team?!!! :D

Let's just have fun. I don't mind being in POL team in the first one and HELL in the second war if one needs more players.

Due to decisions made by the German side, all rules regarding this war have been changed. Therefore, I'm posting an update.

The event, originally organized by the Polish side, was intended to be open to all players. Therefore, the minimum number of members in each guild was set at 15. Everyone was supposed to have fun, and that was the goal.

Unfortunately, the German players didn't understand this and broke every possible basic rule of social interaction, respect for the opponent, and even honesty.

Almost the entire GER team consists of people who spent enormous amounts of mooncoins on stats. Half of them invested coin packs of 200 euros each. At the same time, the GER team kicked out anyone who refused to buy coin packs worth tens or hundreds of euros.

How did this work?

1. Of course, everyone knew that in the guild -WAR- there was one player who spent a huge amount of coins. We knew he would play on the GER team. For the GER team, this player was definitely not enough!

2. They invited player #2, who also contributed a pack of 200 coins.
   At this point, the GER team was guaranteed a 100% victory. The math doesn't lie. Anyone with a basic understanding of statistics and probability calculations could calculate that the GER team would win the war in a landslide. Our chances were 0.

3. That's not all. The GER team wanted to be 1000% sure they would win the war. They invited player #3, who purchased a pack of coins for 200 euros.

4. Did anyone think that was the end? No. The German players decided they had to win this war 100:0. They wanted to ensure 100% victory. They kicked all regular and normal players out of the guild. They took away practically every possible target.

I think I forgot to mention that two more players from GER bought more large coin packs to boost their stats, but that's really a minor thing.

Some might get angry, but I'd rather laugh about it ;) It turned out to be a really interesting story.

I'm just wondering – our friends from Germany and their allies, do you have a shred of self-reflection, self-criticism, and self-distance? Have you ever considered how your opponent perceives you? Do you think they'll shoot their opponent like ducks with impunity? And we'll just stand there, line up, and wait for the verdict.

Let me be honest. With your lack of restraint and wild desire to win, you've achieved the complete opposite effect. When your team had two players with "200+ euros," we all would have faced you head-on. The moment you invited player number 3 "200 euros plus" (not to mention what you did next), it was "A Bridge Too Far" – to paraphrase the famous words of General Frederick Browning.

Interestingly, the GER team engaged the entire CRATR apparatus to do everything possible to make this war happen, despite the fact that our guild hasn't existed long enough to declare war. Administrators, who have been completely ignoring players and requests to improve the game for years, suddenly write to us – Polish players – that they will change the game mechanics and remove the restriction specifically for this war. My request to you – CRATR.games – is this: instead of officially supporting the GER team, please first fix all the game's bugs so that everyone can enjoy KnightFight.

Let's save ourselves the time of all the other players.

This war will end in a 1 vs 1 duel.

You will choose one player from your large and strong team. We, as the Polish side, will choose 1. It will be like a duel between Boagrius and Achilles.

I'm waiting for the German side to nominate this player. We'll start and end the war today.

Well, everything worth saying about this "war" is in the post above.

So I want to say something about this MoonCoin to gold transfer option and I expect someone from CRATR actually answering this.

Like what's the point of this even existing? Just pure greed? You know you could promote this game a bit, bring a lot of players to this game this way and you would end up with even more money in your pockets? Premium, tavern boost, Battleground fee, all the weapons, armors, shields and stones, they would pay to buy them AND THAT IS ENOUGH, no need for such a stupid, game breaking thing. You could then enjoy your money, we could enjoy a normal, SKILL based gameplay. Every fight, every war would be fair. Someone is stronger than you? He achieved that by actually playing the game, getting gold from fights etc, not by fat wallet.

This game is so neglected at this point, remember when servers were so full of players? Now we have like 250 active players on a NEW server, that is ridiculous. And I'm afraid you won't have any players soon if nothing changes here, this MoonCoin to gold transfer is also killing this game, as we can't even have a nice, fun war because of it. You really can make even more money without this just by attracting here more people, premium and other stuff I mentioned before are pretty much crucial for effective playing.

I know I just wasted my time writing this, you make promises, then nothing happens, 0 information for players or you just avoid their posts. You still didnt answer Ostaszawianin's question from 20 september about 1H balance on this forum...

We love this game, but it looks like you hate it for some reason. You are doing literally everything in your power to make people angry and leave this game. Why? Maybe you should take someone new to your team who would help you in adding new stuff to the game and answering question asked here? This game has a lot of potential and you are using it in 5% at best. :(

You asked for a 15 vs. 15 match, and we asked a huge number of players if they wanted to participate in the war. Just like you.

A few members of the GER guild unfortunately had to cancel due to time constraints and left the guild.

We were actually waiting for CRATR.games to release the war for all of us. That would have happened today at 8:00 PM. At least, that was the promise I received.

I tried to support you as best I could, despite your behavior toward me.

Now I'm focusing on the essentials again.

I hope everyone continues to have fun with KF.

Death & Glory
ZuTyy-

A few members of the GER guild unfortunately had to cancel due to time constraints and left the guild.

A very interesting story. I thought you'd write that they accidentally left the guild, they were just clicking, and suddenly... it happened.

But why did all these extraordinary situations only affect the weakest players, and not the strongest ones?

You had 15 players, but you kicked them out of the guild. No one believes the stories you tell. You didn't keep your word and didn't want 15 players in the guild.

Let's also explain why this war couldn't happen. Because ZuTyy (the founder of the guild on INT 1 for levels 350-700) lacks basic knowledge of the game. He forced the players from Poland (I emphasize – forced them, meaning he issued orders) to form a new guild and leave their current one. Unfortunately, ZuTyy didn't even know that a new guild couldn't declare war.

Regardless of the above, a 1 vs 1 match was proposed by the Polish side. I haven't received a response from ZuTy. The lack of a response speaks volumes.

Hi, I'm not sure what this has to do with administrators being in a guild or not, but we don't have any administrators who are in player guilds. Or rather, we don't have administrators as such, but employees at CRATR.games. We simply received a request to support the war that is to take place in October, which we agreed to after discussing and agreeing to one or two conditions.

Exchanging coins for gold has been going on for years, even before CRATR.games took over KnightFight.
And no, no one is lining their pockets here, far from it.

We are sponsoring this guild event https://moonid.net/forums/topic/7481/
We are not organising the event or anything like that, but rather sponsoring the prizes and increasing guild membership numbers. No more, no less.

We are happy to support such events, but if it causes discord because another event is running or a non-sponsored event did not go as desired, then that is more than sad.

Which bugs exactly should be fixed?
Please report bugs to us via our ticket system so that we can fix these bugs in the game.

No one receives preferential treatment or is treated differently by us. Anyone can come to us with an idea for an event, and we then discuss internally whether we will support it or not.

Please be kind to each other and have fun playing with your friends and other players.

I wish you all a lovely Sunday evening.

Greetings, Patti

Exchanging coins for gold has been going on for years, even before CRATR.games took over KnightFight.

It doesn't mean that it's good. :( I have absolutely nothing against money in your pockets :) don't get me wrong, wishing you all the best in this matter, but is it the right way of achieving it? You must be aware how strongly it affects gameplay. If this exchange option is essential for game survival money-wise, then I will understand it. But is it?

I know it looks like complaining and nothing more, but I also want to help as I can, as you saw in other thread. (translation from english to polish)

Hey, did you also had fun with the war: Poland versus Germany? LOL

What a big show—throwing in the towel five minutes before the war even began. Respect!

Polishteam could have voiced their concerns a few days earlier; maybe some of the Team germany would even have emigrated to the Polish side to make it balanced and fair. :-)

I agree that this is a big communication problem!

And I hope this damn failed war doesn’t create any hostility between nationalities.

That’s exactly why it wasn’t a good idea to limit it to nationalities in the first place!

Anyway, I’m new to KF, and I’d be so happy if we could somehow set up a playful war without all the paranoia. :-P

I’ll just join the weaker team, because I don’t care if we lose the war. I will give my best and I just want to have fun!

As an outside observer not involved in the slightest I give you credit for attempting to organise something like this, but you lose that for the way that you appear to throw the toys out the pram when you don't get your own way.

(And you might want to consider that your writen tone comes across as confrontational)

Just to clarify:

From the very beginning, I said in the German forum, as well as here, why it's so bad to boost your skills with real money. In a country, server, friendly war, however you want to describe it, this injustice is particularly evident. Of course, those who boost their skills through purchases have a particular advantage, while other players, like me, take the much longer route through the battle server, missions and tavern quests, which takes weeks to achieve such a skill level, while others already had it at level 4, which you actually only get at level 11 to 12.

I told you, the war won't happen, precisely for these reasons. Because they clearly pick out the players who have boosted their skills with real money.

They wouldn't have taken me anyway, because my knight is still too weak at level 15. My knight has just reached level 15 and achieved the skill level that some players here already had at level 4 or level 8, purely through normal gameplay (without purchasing anything). So, can you see the actual problem?

But what I find completely wrong is always writing ‘the German players’?

Excuse me?

This is an international server. And even in the WAR guild, there are several nations represented, not all of them German. It doesn't say where everyone is from either.

So stop focusing on one nation.

The evil Germans, seriously, stop it. You don't want people talking about your nation like that, so don't do it to others.

If the war had taken place

between Poland and Germany

and the ‘German’ side had lost,

then the laughter would have started – oh look at the Germans, what losers.

If the German side had won, then they would be the evil Germans and the gossip would start,

as you can see here,

it didn't even really happen and already the agitation has started. A friendly coexistence of several represented nations is different.

You can't even manage it in advance, let alone if this server war had taken place.

It's sad to read that my assumption about this behaviour if one side loses has been confirmed. Think about it and you'll understand why it will never work if some people don't change their fundamental behaviour.

I don't care about the nationality of the players who push themselves so hard.

I'm only interested in the fact that such manipulation is possible within the game, which can of course lead to friction between players. It's obvious that something like this is bound to happen.

My suggestion is to get rid of this boosting with Moon Coins so that things are fairer again, because that's the real problem, why such great ideas for a server war don't happen.

I'm closing this thread now because it's slowly going in the wrong direction.