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The WARGUILD invites you!

Thoughts of times gone by have motivated us to give it another try.
With your help, we would like to wage a server war on Veligrad, just like we did five years ago on Trutzberge.
In return, we are offering something in collaboration with CRATR.games!

The two war guilds HELL and HEAVEN have already been founded. These need to be filled as soon as possible so that we can expand the castle together.
The more donations we receive, the bigger the server war will be.

We will go into battle on October 20, 2025, at 6:00 p.m..
Any player who can take care of their gold and does not intentionally leave it lying around is welcome to join. Just choose a side!

Those who persevere until the end will receive 500 MoonCoins, and the winner of the battle will receive 1000 MoonCoins.
In addition, CvD would like to give a special reward to the bravest warriors among us this time!

The 10 warriors with the most victories in the server war will receive:

1. 10,000 MCs
2. 9,000 MCs
3. 8,000 MCs
4. 7,000 MCs
5. 6,000 MCs
6. 5,000 MCs
7. 4,000 MCs
8. 3,000 MCs
9. 2,000 MCs
10. 1,000 MCs

Rise up, let's fill the guilds!
Veligrad will shake when the two guilds meet!

Honor & Strength
ZuTyy-

Server War 2020

seriously? Polish guild founded by a german?

of course. because i do the organisation.
i will leave later. but anyways..

GER vs PL is now

HEAVEN vs HELL

I would like to expand on Rafael1996's thought.

Establishing a guild "on someone else's behalf" feels like you're making decisions for someone who has no voice. This is perceived as patronizing, or at best, paternalism. Of course, we know you're acting in good faith, but it doesn't change the perception and tone of the entire event.

Poles have their own guilds, which even have "Poland" in their name or a Polish flag. Therefore, another guild isn't necessary, and creating new ones is completely incomprehensible to us. However, if you believe there's a deeper meaning behind this, please first contact the Polish players on INT 7, or those guilds that have a flag or a Polish name. I think it's not difficult. I think this will make further cooperation much easier.

That's exactly what will be done. Every player on Int7 will be informed about the war via a message from CRATR.games. It's not just Poles or Germans who are supposed to take part in the battle, but anyone who wants to. If you want to organize an event in collaboration with CRATR.games, you can't just use an existing guild from other players. Two independent guilds will be opened so that you can work on these guilds specifically for the event. This way, you may even be able to use them again for another event in the future. For example, you could increase the member limit or even remove it entirely. This should only be possible for this event and not for further use afterwards.

Of course, no one should be patronized, and I actually only found out today that you are planning a GER vs. PL on Sunday. However, the issue is off the table because, as far as I'm concerned, it will only be HEAVEN vs. HELL in the future.

I wish you all lots of fun playing the game and good luck on Int7 👍🏻

See you on the Battlefield!

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If you want the server war to be a little different, you need the support of the developers. That's right.

CRATR.games doesn't even want the guilds to be called Poland and Germany. That's why we renamed the whole thing in consultation.

ZuTyy, you're coming up with a very interesting initiative that's in an advanced stage of organization.

On the other hand, you admit that for the past month you haven't played KnightFight at all, don't read the forum, don't use Discord, and don't keep in touch with other players.

You brought up the topic of the PL vs. GER war on INT 7 and said:

"I actually only found out today that you're planning a GER vs. PL war."

Information about the PL vs. GER war as of September 28th has been available for over 30 days. This information was shared as follows:

1. A topic on the international forum over a month ago:
   https://moonid.net/forums/topic/7452/
2. A topic on the German forum:
   https://moonid.net/forums/topic/7453/
3. Information on Discord in the international group
4. Information on Discord in the German group
5. Private messages to members of -WAR- on INT 1
6. Private messages to members of -WAR- on INT 6
   Private messages to members of -WAR- on INT 7.

It is impossible for anyone not to know about this war.

"However, the issue is off the table because, as far as I'm concerned, it will only be HEAVEN vs. HELL in the future."

-> I take it that the German side capitulates? Is this your decision after more than 30 days of consideration? Of course, you have the right to do so. The Polish side only made a proposal.

If you wish to submit a surrender on behalf of the German side, please do so in the thread that started this initiative:
https://moonid.net/forums/topic/7452/

If you want the server war to be a little different, you need the support of the developers. That's right.

CRATR.games doesn't even want the guilds to be called Poland and Germany. That's why we renamed the whole thing in consultation.

Let's clarify the discussion a bit. I'm talking about the Polish vs. German war, which was announced over 30 days ago. Of course, you don't need CRATR's consent for this. Especially since it's a private initiative of over 20 Polish players, on whose behalf I submitted this proposal.

I understand that you started a thread here about war no. 2 (even though war no. 1 had already been announced) between PL and GER with mooncoin rewards, without CRATR's knowledge or consent, and you called it a PL vs. GER war? Did CRATR change their mind and withdraw the initial consent you received from them?

And one more thing. You write that you only learned about the PL vs. GER war "today." You wrote your post a few minutes after midnight. Several hours later, you posted about the PL vs. GER war on the international forum. Since you mentioned supporting CRATR with mooncoins, it means you've been talking to them at least a few times before. This means that you've launched an initiative with a second PL vs. GER war; they're completely unaware that one is already being organized.

I apologize for being very meticulous and verifying all your claims, but many people are wondering whether your initiative is serious in this light. We remember a year ago when CVD announced that you were coordinating the "biggest battle" at INT 6: Poland vs. Germany. Your project ended in disaster. When Polish players offered to help organize it, you wrote that "the topic is no longer relevant." Therefore, everyone might wonder if this time you'll reply to all players with "the topic is no longer relevant."

Considering that you yourself admit you don't read the forum and post information in the "announcements" section, then completely change your concept and promise coins without consulting CRATR, things don't look good at the moment.

Well, I'm waiting for this mythical "largest marketing campaign". Then there would be no need to organize anything, people would just make their guilds and fight with others when they want to.

I really want to know if we are constantly lied to? WHERE IS IT? Why so late? Why not BEFORE starting the server? I personally wouldn't start here after seeing many players already being around lvl 20, how to compete with them in this situation? WHY everything is so slow here? :( This guy who started streaming is actually doing more at this point than you, please, this cannot continue like this. Some people stop playing - server is pretty much dead. We need more players.

Your post contains some false statements, which you couldn't possibly know better. However, they portray me in a false light.

When I make something public that has to do with CRATR.games, of course i talk with them before.

After my last attempt to start a server war, I took a one-year break from KF. I started on int7 and only played casually, not 100% like I used to. The -WAR- group motivated me again, and I've been playing KF more intensively for about seven days now.
Of course, I don't read everything when I've just started again.

The 2020 server war was a complete success. Everyone had fun. I started preparing for the war 1.5 years ago. We founded the two guilds but still needed the support of CRATR.games because we wanted to make the server war even better. This support didn't materialize as desired, and the server war was not continued. Unfortunately, I stopped playing out of disappointment.

Now I have CRATR.games' approval for the MoonCoins and advertising again. In retrospect, we changed the name of the event because some players didn't like it for historical reasons.

Regarding your war “GER vs PL”

You wrote in your thread that -WAR- founded the German guild without talking to me. I am the founder and leader of the guild.
-WAR- is international, not just German.

This also explains why we had a few applications that we knew nothing about. This behavior is not acceptable.

If you want your war, you have to found a guild for the Germans, which we will then be happy to join. After all, I have assured you of my support.

But simply mentioning the -WAR- WARGUILD in the forum as a target for the Germans without consultation is not acceptable.

Let a guild be founded for the Germans; after all, you are the organizer, and we will then join.

I think this all stems from communication problems, misunderstandings. I think it would be a shame to argue when deep down we all want the same thing, namely activity on the server. There are two guilds that were created for the war, after all, it doesn't matter who creates the guild, right? Perhaps these guilds could be used for both wars, the first one in a few days, as GarlWar wanted, and the "rematch" on October 20, as Zutyy proposed? Friends, there aren't many of us left on this game, let's try to be united and get along. :)

ZuTyy, you claim I portraying you in a false light.. You're doing it yourself.

If you lie publicly, you have to face the consequences. You say you only learned about the PL vs. GER war yesterday. Meanwhile, on the INT 7 server, you were proposing a PL vs. GER war three days ago. How is it possible that you know nothing about this event and yet are writing private messages about it? Lies have short legs.

I'll say this publicly as a curiosity. Who was ZuTyy writing to about the PL vs. GER war? To a player who isn't from Poland, doesn't create Polish guilds, and has never been identified as a contact person. We're back to square one. ZuTyy refuses to contact official representatives of the Polish side (Waldan, and if Waldan doesn't respond, you can write to me) and instead writes to other random people. What's the problem with writing to us directly?

You're saying that the Polish side makes decisions without consulting the German side. As you'll see in the post above, most German players received invitations to join the team over 30 days ago, through multiple communication channels. Again, you're misrepresenting the truth.

You're still complaining that no one has contacted you directly. Meanwhile, you're an inactive player who barely plays at all. You admit this yourself. I believe you should talk to players who are present, not those who aren't. Unless your teammates, who received private messages on multiple servers, didn't want to forward them. This is an internal matter, and you can't blame anyone for it.

Regardless, I leave the evaluation to the forum readers.

I think this all stems from communication problems, misunderstandings. I think it would be a shame to argue when deep down we all want the same thing, namely activity on the server. There are two guilds that were created for the war, after all, it doesn't matter who creates the guild, right? Perhaps these guilds could be used for both wars, the first one in a few days, as GarlWar wanted, and the "rematch" on October 20, as Zutyy proposed? Friends, there aren't many of us left on this game, let's try to be united and get along. :)

Twenry114
--> I think this is a very good and wise compromise proposal.

I agree with it and accept it. We're participating in two wars:

1. Poland vs. Germany on 28.09
2. Heaven vs. Hell on 20.10

I wonder if ZuTyy will agree, because I can tell you ZuTyy will find another 1,000 reasons to reject any compromise. This is a bid for time and an attempt to save face before total capitulation.

I announced the war on October 20 and read your post in the forum one day later.

As I said, bad timing.

My members have assured me that no one gave their approval in my absence for the Wargilde to be a target for the Germans.

Perhaps we should now be a little productive and push ahead with your GER vs. PL war.

Shall we use the HEAVEN and HELL guilds?

Then I'll rename them tonight and change the guild images.

We're happy to fight against you.

This topic is already quite long, so I'll briefly summarize.

1. ZuTyy wants to organize another war at INT 7, while he failed miserably as an organizer at INT 6, despite CRATR officially entrusting him with organizing a PL vs. GER war. The question is whether your attempts at INT 7 will result in another organizational failure on your part.

2. ZuTyy doesn't read the forum and is an inactive player. He confirmed here that he first creates forum threads and only then checks the server situation and what's happening. This doesn't sound good or serious.

3. This war organized by ZuTy is purely specious; it's a cover for a different goal. He's trying to destroy the event that was announced a month ago: PL vs. GER. He believes that our event should be covered up by his events. This entire HEAVEN vs. HELL war is an attempt to cover up the PL vs. GER war, meaning a complete capitulation by the German side by indirectly destroying the PL vs. GER event.

4. This event is intended to minimize the negative image of the German side, which capitulates and refuses to participate in the PL vs GER war.

5. ZuTyy refuses any compromise, i.e., participating in two events:
   a) PL vs. GER on September 28th
   b) HEAVEN vs. HELL on October 20th
   Despite the fact that this is a reasonable proposal by a third party - Twenry114.

Precisely for the reason mentioned above.

I leave the above comments for the consideration of those who would like to participate in ZuTyy's event, which will likely end in a disaster like INT 6.

I think there are communication issues. Each of you seems willing to make an effort to ensure this event takes place, but I think grievances and misunderstandings are making dialogue difficult. If you agree, I suggest we proceed as follows:

• Tonight, Zutyy will rename the guild Heaven > PL. Waldan will join the PL guild (created specifically for this war, not the permanent “PL SH” guild) as captain of the PL guild and will recruit his team for the war on Sunday, September 28. Zutyy will leave the guild and leave it to the PL.

• The Hell guild will be renamed > GER. The captain of Germany, whoever that may be (Zutyy or someone else), will recruit his team for the war on Sunday, September 28.

The advantage of proceeding this way is that the guilds are already created and it will not affect the war statistics of the WAR guilds (whose members will not all necessarily be participants, I imagine) and PL SH.

In a month, on October 20, the war proposed by the WAR guild, under the banner “Hell vs Heaven,” potentially reusing this guilds for a rematch, under a more “neutral” banner.

Is it okay with everyone if we do it this way? :)

The 10 warriors with the most victories in the server war will receive:

1. 10,000 MCs
2. 9,000 MCs
3. 8,000 MCs
4. 7,000 MCs
5. 6,000 MCs
6. 5,000 MCs
7. 4,000 MCs
8. 3,000 MCs
9. 2,000 MCs
10. 1,000 MCs

Give these rewards to two-handed players who built their characters with real money. Why create the illusion of winning?