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APULUS
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Posted Oct. 7, 2025, 3:15 p.m.

Have any of you noticed that they make us lose fights to opponents who are less than half our strength? Why do you think they do it? That's a big question.

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Patti CRATR.games
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Posted Oct. 7, 2025, 3:41 p.m.

Hello,

Can you share some examples with us? In KF, it's easy to share your fight reports completely with others, including us.
Because we don't force anyone to lose, and we closely monitor the changes we've made, we're very surprised by the statement that it's still bad.

But I also think NocnySokol is right and many have forgotten what it was like in the beginning.
So feel free to share your fight reports.

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APULUS
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Posted Oct. 7, 2025, 4:35 p.m.

Once upon a time, the strongest won. Now, very often, the weakest win. But that's not important. It was just a question to see if it happens to others too. That's all.

APULUS
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Posted Oct. 7, 2025, 4:41 p.m.

The opposite also happened. I was attacked by someone stronger and I won. It seems that the victory was due to chance or luck and no longer to courage. My impression.

NocnySokol
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Posted Oct. 7, 2025, 3:35 p.m.

It's probably alwasy been like that we just forgot how it is on lower levels. Unless your stats are massively higher than your opponent it's a random fight... which shouldn't be, because 5 points of FA/PA at this level cost significant amount of gold and should make a dffference.

I really feel sorry for guys like Pappas or other 1h who invested, so much in DEX and then see those silly results vs 5 lvl lower, weaker 2h player.

Should've gone 2h, top up 2 bottom stats with gold they've sent on DEX and they would be winning with those 5 lvls higher instead of losing with those below them.

Twenry114
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Posted Oct. 7, 2025, 5:24 p.m.
Edited by Twenry114 Oct. 7, 2025, 5:24 p.m.

Nocny Sokol is right. The calculation of whether or not you have a chance to hit is done by crossing FA/PA. If you have 85 FA and he has 75 PA, even if it seems like a big difference, it's actually insignificant in terms of the percentage chance of hitting. As long as the differences are so negligible, it's really more a matter of luck. I feel this very strongly in my battles (I'm Origin on INT7) with Seraphane, who has almost exactly the same distribution of stat points as me on INT7. In our last 9 encounters, I won 5 times and Seraphane won 4 times. Seraphane has a higher FA/PA value than me, and I have a more powerful weapon and one more round. Neither my advantage nor his really makes the difference, so we're literally at 50/50.

However, what is very real and pointed out by NocnySokol is that 1H are still the big losers in all this, as they are significantly weaker than 2H with equal gold investment. For a 1H to have a chance, they need to have STR, STA, and FA/PA similar to a 2H, but they also need to have DEX invested at about the same level as STR. This is completely unbalanced, not to mention the fact that 1H equipment costs much more because they have to buy armor and a shield.

Ostaszewianin
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Posted Oct. 8, 2025, 10:52 a.m.
Edited by Ostaszewianin Oct. 8, 2025, 6:51 p.m.

An example of such a fight. REPORT

Analyze this fight/report for yourself. Additionally, there's still a penalty for defense. With 30 dexterity, the bonus should be 4.62, but it's 4.44. So, as a reward, they're taking away 1 dexterity point, which costs over 1,000 gold.

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This is even better ahahahahahahahaha REPORT

FA/PA Ratio: 46/32 vs 31/60 -> Hits: 4/10 vs 4/7. This cannot be explained by randomness

NocnySokol
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Posted Oct. 8, 2025, 10:17 p.m.

I will be happy to hear back from admins about that second report... I thought PA to FA ratio will be affecting it a little more. Where I can understand 10-20 points difference when your skills are over 200 isn't a lot... but in your case your PA is double his FA !!!

I see similarity in fights we had on BS with those having 400-500 PA when we had 200 FA we were lucky to have 1-2 hits.... over 30-35 rounds!!!!

How did he score 4/7 rounds having FA half of your PA?! ?!

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