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UchiaSasuke
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Posted Oct. 14, 2025, 9:40 p.m.
Edited by UchiaSasuke Oct. 14, 2025, 10:12 p.m.

You're making such an update without informing anyone. I expect you to show a little more respect to us gamers and inform us beforehand, at least personally.

We've discussed this issue with the upcoming update. The general focus was on reducing the battleground time. When I look at the update, it seems like battles have decreased, while our waiting time has increased. Exactly the opposite of what we said. If you want us to abandon the game, you can tell us that. I don't want a P2W game, and what you're doing is turning the game into a P2W game.

If there's another update we haven't noticed, please let us know.

Also, someone really need to explain this. The number of battles has been halved. The cooldown has doubled. Why are our payouts the same?

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sasquach
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Posted Oct. 15, 2025, 5:01 a.m.

I am also totally unhappy with the changes made in th BS Why are you doing this anyway when we are used to 5 minute wait times in between battles for the same amount of mooncoins on the 7 day sessions If anything that should be for nonpremium players and premium players should just stay the same For those that complain that they dont get the same chances as premium players do,everyone has a choice to buy or not to buy coins . And for those who say oh well they will still buy premiums anyway I say oh no I wont and I wont play the BS anymore if they are going to cut the benefits of it in half and i think alot of others will feel the same but i guess we will see.It just makes no sence to me that they would gouge us like that when we spend money on the game. Just my opinion....

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LordWrona
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Posted Oct. 15, 2025, 12:35 p.m.

You both are right, this is further limiting the already limited F2P players, and posing a small inconvenience for the payers.

Maybe you resign from BS, but some of the tops will not, hence the differences will grow.

UnderCloud
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Posted Oct. 14, 2025, 10:10 p.m.

At least lower the entry prices, as now we get less for the same price which is ridiculous...

UchiaSasuke
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Posted Oct. 14, 2025, 11:19 p.m.

Can someone explain to me what's healing?
It used to take exactly 8 hours and 20 minutes for 100 battles.
Now it takes exactly 16 hours and 40 minutes for 100 battles.
I could fight 200 battles with 150 MC,
I can fight 100 battles with 150 MC,
I can fight 400 battles with 250 MC,
I can fight 200 battles with 250 MC.

If you want to heal. Fix the 99-star issue in Battleground. Add new items like one-handed, two-handed, shields, armor, etc. What are you trying to do by breaking something that already works?

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Nurmela1
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Posted Oct. 15, 2025, 1:22 p.m.

also this doesnt make a difference to people who play this game 16h a day and have deep pockets. they will still continue to do 200 battles iver 2 days, and repeat. which will still be 400 battles in 4 days, same as before, with a small delay of 16 hours on last day instead of 8.

smells like cashgrab

UchiaSasuke
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Posted Oct. 15, 2025, 12:57 a.m.

Dear admins, can you please provide an explanation before players make their own conclusions?
What I've seen from the outside is as described above. Could you please provide a detailed explanation of the update?
Have there been any changes to the reward system?
Has our daily battle limit changed?
Was the update only applied to the battleground?
Are there any updates to the server?
Are there any changes to our battles with the star system?
For example, does a 2-star player receive 2 BP from a 2.5-3 star player, and 3 BP from a 3.5-4 star player?
Or have there been updates in these areas as well?

Rym
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Posted Oct. 15, 2025, 1 a.m.

Uchia Saseuke, I agree that we should have been informed about the changes earlier, because not everyone likes surprises.

Personally, I am very happy. This is the implementation of some of the requests made by many players.

As players, we don't want this game to require us to click 100 battles for 12-14 hours a day. The 5-minute interval meant that people didn't even have a moment to themselves. Everyone has their own private life - family, friends, work. The fewer attacks and the more breaks between battles, the better for all of us.

In addition, the previous battle system meant that a few (literally) players very quickly reached too high a level, which discouraged the rest of the server from playing.

Now everyone has an equal chance, you don't have to play 24/7 to have a strong knight.

The more players at a similar level = the more interesting the gameplay.
-> The new battlefield system brings us closer to this point.

As far as I remember, the player community was expecting a new server to be opened without access to Battleground - the classic server. Maybe this will be possible with the new server.

To the CRATR Team: you made a very good decision and at least partially took into account the requests of many players. Now we are waiting for the fulfillment of your second promise - balancing one-handed and two-handed players, because the gap between them is still very large.

Thank you for your work and effort.

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LordWrona
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Posted Oct. 15, 2025, 12:32 p.m.

What a bulls$%t. You know, that 5-min or 10-min interval DID NOT force anyone neither to click every 5/10 minutes nor play 24/7?

The applied solution does not solve any problem. The "coin maniacs" will continue to P2W, whilst free 'under'players will get even less of their already limited actions.

It's not opening to new players/markets, but bowing to the payers. Of course, a paying client has priorities, but let's not pretend that spit is rain.
<clap clap clap>

Nurmela1
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Posted Oct. 15, 2025, 1:13 a.m.

also how is the ticket raffle affected? will i as a f2p player ever get a chance to win on the raffle?

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LordWrona
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Posted Oct. 15, 2025, 12:33 p.m.

No, you can go to hell (:

Ostaszewianin
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Posted Oct. 15, 2025, 1:15 a.m.

Cratr!'s decision is excellent. It's supposed to be PvP instead of PvBot. I hope it'll soon be replaced by another form of play. Raise the prices of equipment and premium even further. Fanatics will complain a bit on the forum, but they'll buy it anyway. With a monthly expenditure of several thousand MC spent on Gladiolus, 250 MC more spent on premium doesn't make a difference, right? :)

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Rym
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Posted Oct. 15, 2025, 1:44 a.m.

I agree with you. Raising the price of equipment and premium is a much better solution than the "coin -> gold" option. That's what ruins every new server. That's why there's so much uproar on the server and forum, because theoretically we're opening a new server where everyone has equal opportunities, and suddenly it turns out the competition is over...

Of course, CRATR can maintain its financial profits without resorting to this obscene option. You're right that people who spend XXX euros on stats will still buy weapons that are 3x more expensive. The differences between players won't be as huge as they are now on INT 7, and previously INT 6 and other servers.

Patti CRATR.games
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Posted Oct. 15, 2025, 9:03 p.m.

Good evening everyone, we're currently rolling back the battlefield.

CVD will publish something about this later.

The most important thing is that we first restore the battlefield to the way you had it before.

Greetings and have a nice Wednesday evening.

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UnderCloud
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Posted Oct. 15, 2025, 9:06 p.m.
Edited by UnderCloud Oct. 15, 2025, 9:33 p.m.

I just started a new session on the actual terms. So now I will have to be behind because of this? :(

Please make it somehow fair for those who are now stuck with 50 attacks per day.

Patti CRATR.games
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Posted Oct. 15, 2025, 9:37 p.m.

Before anyone asks:
There will be a direct refund for all MoonCoins spent in the Battleground during the affected period.

CVD post :

https://moonid.net/forums/topic/7508/

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PaPPaS
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Posted Oct. 15, 2025, 10:52 p.m.
Edited by PaPPaS Oct. 15, 2025, 10:54 p.m.

I think you didn't fully understand what UnderCloud was talking about.
I don't think anyone here will demand mooncoins from you. The server is new, and even 10,000 gold is very valuable. I'll earn a maximum of 28,000 gold by fighting 200 battles. If I fought 400 battles, I'd earn 56,000 gold. Who will cover this loss, dear @Patti?

I haven't even mentioned the experience thing!

UnderCloud
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Posted Oct. 16, 2025, 7:14 a.m.
Edited by UnderCloud Oct. 16, 2025, 7:41 a.m.

Yes, exactly what Pappas is saying. I will earn half of everything at the end of this session, coins will not compensate me that. At the same time many other players are doing normal 400 sessions, that is a big difference in gold and experience. I can abandon this 200 session, but then I'm also behind for obvious reasons.

Is there a possibility to double our gold and exp at the end of 200 fights? Like raffle style, but with 100% chance to double it, just to make things fair. I would be happy to exchange 250 coins I got back to get this. I started this nerfed session literally 2 hours before you rolled things back, so imagine my disadvantage versus someone who started it just after you brought back things as they were before, or even today.

UnderCloud
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Posted Oct. 17, 2025, 8:40 a.m.

Be so kind and answer, I have plans for my account and I won't be able to accomplish them if I don't get enough exp/gold from this nerfed battleground session. Are we really forced to get 50% of normal prizes while others get 100%? You do realize that these 250 coins are not compensating it? If you can't/don't want to do anything about it also tell us, it's better than knowing nothing. We need to plan ahead in this game and it's really hard to do without any info. Thanks.

PaPPaS
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Posted Oct. 17, 2025, 8:53 a.m.

@Undercloud

We have refunded the mooncoins to all affected players. Winnings such as Gold BP remain intact, and the MCs have been credited back.

I opened a ticket and that's what they told me. I think that's enough of an explanation for them. They don't feel the same way you or I do because they don't play the game. They never treat all players equally. They can never achieve justice in the game. It's past time for this game to be abandoned.

UnderCloud
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Posted Oct. 17, 2025, 9:58 a.m.

Thank you very much for answer, that's exactly what I was expecting, but its good to know this for sure.

Quick math done - I will lose around 33k gold because of that, but I guess I can exchange my 250 coins for 500 gold and that will compensate me this. :) Also won't get the requirements for equipment I wanted, as it's around 600 exp lost for me. One day I might also just leave, I hate injustice in MMO's, especially when devs can do something about this (and they are the cause of all this!), but they just don't care. Cheers.

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