|
APULUS
|
Posted March 5, 2026, 12:06 p.m.
But is it possible that characters 13 years older than everyone else have arrived on the International 5 server? Is this normal? Is it normal that characters born in 2020 now have to compete with characters born in 2007? And why were some allowed and others denied? What do the administrators say? Thanks in advance for your replies. |
|
APULUS
|
Posted March 5, 2026, 12:14 p.m.
Edited by APULUS March 5, 2026, 12:26 p.m.
......I would ask everyone to refrain from insults and the like. Anyone who disagrees with what I've written can express their disagreement in a civil manner without resorting to insults. Thank you. |
|
Nimoe
|
Posted March 5, 2026, 2:10 p.m.
Edited by Nimoe March 7, 2026, 7:31 p.m.
Further transfers to Server INT 5 have been stopped due to discrepancies regarding existing and newly added levels on Server 5. This particularly affects the skill distribution of the transferred levels to existing characters on Server 5 and apparently also on Server 6. No further transfers will take place until this issue is resolved. Payments already made for pending transfers would then need to be refunded, or you can simply wait until the matter is resolved. I've heard that someone has paid but is now unable to transfer and hasn't received any feedback on the status. However, since I'm not familiar with this process and have never transferred a character myself, I don't wish to comment on it. There were also statements that new players are being discriminated against, which I believe was misunderstood. We have nothing against new players. It's actually great when KF gains new members. Fresh blood is always welcome. It just makes us skeptical when new players use old accounts. Isn't the game supposed to be learned first? Don't you build your character yourself? How was it then possible for new players, who don't know anyone here, to access old accounts that had been inactive for years, meaning the original players are no longer active? You don't start a new game and immediately ask for old accounts. Many long-time players are asking these questions, which has created mistrust and corresponding dissatisfaction, as their questions haven't been answered. My statement here isn't directed at any nationality, but simply refers to how, for example, new players gained access to old accounts. And then there was the issue of transfers to INT 5 and 6 being possible without prior notice. This is only possible if you specifically request these servers. Advance notice would have been better, as it would have allowed for an explanation of the pros and cons of such transfers. Anger could have been avoided if all players had been informed about these planned moves beforehand. I'm not speaking for myself here, but for many original players from servers 5 and 6 who asked me to make this public. And I have reproduced all of this here exactly as it was told to me. I don't want to say anything more about it because I'm really tired of constantly being personally attacked here. |
|
APULUS
|
Posted March 5, 2026, 2:16 p.m.
13 years of difference is really a lot...too many...if you consider that others have been denied it, with the same yearly allowance. |
|
Nimoe
|
Posted March 5, 2026, 3:08 p.m.
Edited by Nimoe March 5, 2026, 10:49 p.m.
The players of these accounts are not being blamed for being on these servers, since they paid for it and the transfers took place. Understandably, they feel justified, as the transfer was made possible for them. The resentment stems from the fact that this was even possible. This happened without warning, and such information should absolutely be published beforehand. Furthermore, not all of these accounts necessarily match the original accounts from Server 5. The situation there is more serious than on Server 6. I think the situation on Server 6 is still relatively manageable. I was asked by some players to write a summary (here, as well as in other topics), which I did, and that's all from me :) Why did I write here on behalf of these players and not them themselves? They told me to try my luck, but I wouldn't get any answers. They said they'd resigned themselves years ago to the fact that their questions and concerns would be ignored. And I told them, whatever, I'll try anyway. :) I figured asking wouldn't hurt, but I certainly hadn't expected such hostility. Because I actually assumed that one is mature enough to address any disagreements constructively and objectively, but the backlash I encountered was more like an out-of-control mudslinging match with partial threats, various accusations, where I was personally implicated by name, etc., etc.... And these very players I'm speaking for kept servers 5 and 6 alive all these years. And these very players were told to delete their accounts if they didn't like the fact that transfer accounts had now appeared. A heartfelt thank you to these original players of server 5 who kept that server alive. Does their frustration surprise you? Frustrated at being presented with a fait accompli. Frustrated at then being ridiculed simply for disagreeing with the transfers? Frustration that these transfer accounts are far too highly skilled for the original accounts from Server 5 to do anything about it; instead, they are now at the mercy of these highly skilled transfer accounts, and if they say anything, they are advised to delete their accounts. Server 5 is practically dead (within three weeks), and server 6 (Steinhall) started dying with the launch of Veligrad. This is usually what happens when a new game world is released—the previous one dies. So it's not worth leveling up until the end. It was all the more astonishing that Eisenwall (int. server 5) withstood all of this until the transfers began. That was the death knell for server 5. Seriously:Was it really worth destroying a active server in such a short time?And now I've really written everything that was on the minds of the players on server 5 INT :) |
|
Danyy
|
Posted March 6, 2026, 11:14 a.m.
Reading the messages, I write: I think the same way, I support all the doubts and outrage that this is happening. https://pt1.knightfight.moonid.net/player/67012358/ "server transfer" I'm also personally waiting for my request to be accepted, but I don't know if it's because I'm Portuguese and not Polish that the transfer hasn't been made yet. With such a long delay, they don't want anyone to think the wrong thing. He will then also have to pay the 500 Mooncoins transfer fee. Moving your game worlds will also cost you 500 Mooncoins. I accept paying Danyy https://int5.knightfight.moonid.net/player/519001161/ I accept paying I want to have a reason to play again, since I think it might make more sense to play on a server with active players and not on a dead server where I am now. With that, I'd like to go back to playing premium instead of free. I, the Portuguese guy, don't have any friends among the administrators, could that be the problem...? I agreed to pay for the transfer. |
|
Nimoe
|
Posted March 6, 2026, 2:55 p.m.
Edited by Nimoe March 6, 2026, 11:14 p.m.
@Danyy Here's a comparison of the average skill level of the transferred accounts to the average skill level (⌀) of the original accounts on server 5. Only two of the transferred accounts a good match; the rest are less suitable. Consider the level as well, and you'll see that the transferred accounts are too high compared to the original accounts of the same level. First, the original accounts from Server 5: Level 194 : ⌀ Skill = 299,2 Here are the transfer accounts with average skill levels, taking the respective levels into account. I've also listed your account level (137), Dany: Level 196 : ⌀ Skill = 375 Your account, Danyy, Level 137: ⌀ Skill = 311,6 (too high). Your skill average of 311,6 would correspond to original account level 197 on server 5. An original server 5 account at level 138 has a skill average of 213,6. Your account matches the transfer accounts, but not the original accounts from Server 5, and that's the point. These two Transferred accounts match the original accounts:Level 135 : ⌀ Skill = 244 Sorry to everyone whose accounts I've listed here based on their level and average skill build. But it was necessary to make this comparison. Without him, this comparison would not have been possible. |
|
APULUS
|
Posted March 6, 2026, 2:56 p.m.
Edited by APULUS March 6, 2026, 2:57 p.m.
Danyy, You hit the nail on the head. Many things are unclear. I hope someone will take the time to clarify them. But given recent events, I highly doubt it. Anyone who feels wronged should stop buying the gems. Maybe something can change. I'm sure that to silence us now someone will threaten to ban us |
|
Danyy
|
Posted March 6, 2026, 4:48 p.m.
Nothing written here is grounds for banning us. These aren't insults. They're just questions that deserve an answer from the administrators. Today, no, never... |
|
Danyy
|
Posted March 6, 2026, 4:55 p.m.
Dear administrators; I only requested a transfer from my account because I saw that other accounts had been transferred. If you hadn't authorized the transfers first, I wouldn't be asking for mine to be transferred. I didn't even know it was possible. |
|
p_b
|
Posted March 8, 2026, 1:31 p.m.
It's tricky imo to define what is "fair" in terms of skills and level to transfer over when looking at a char based on it's age because there's a few different playstyles that can influence whether some-one has "good" stats for char's age or not. I used to have a sub level 100 char who had stats equivalent of a 130/140lvl roughly - because I camped (lost XP by farming leakers) to massively boost my stats relative to my level. Before the BG - this was "the" best method to build a strong knight as the leakers were all low levels and there were loads of targets to hit for XP when you wanted to level up. Also we've all learnt with the currently playstyle that STA is a wasted stat - and so those that are aware of that with newer accounts can push their average stat number down (both BE advantages + the gold can be spent elsewhere) - pre turtle nerf accounts needed huge STA to try to avoid the deadlock, so 50+ rounds were common on the old worlds. Also those that buy prem equipment have an advantage over the gold equipment, as all gold goes towards stats only. Not saying that it was right to allow a "powerful" knight to be tansfered to a world without any announcements from the Game admins - just that the definition of "fair" is slightly tricky to define. Regardless - it's down to CRATR that this was not communicated clearly and highlights just how much of a "BS" statement they make of "we're all in it together" when they can't even seemingly tell us of changes to policies, or provide anything meaningful in terms of roadmaps or plans. |
|
Nimoe
|
Posted March 11, 2026, 4:46 p.m.
Edited by Nimoe March 19, 2026, 9:21 p.m.
So what's going on? Either these accounts disappear again, or you give ALL the original players about server 5 there an extra 100 or 120 skill points in each of their 5 skill areas. That would solve the problem. But it's unacceptable that these transfers are constantly attacking the original players, leaving them completely helpless because they're missing an average of 100-120 skill points per skill area. Here's a link to a battle comparison showing only the skill points:
(On the left are the skill points of the transfer account, on the right are the skill points of our member). Further details regarding level and character type, etc., cannot be published here; therefore, this information has been obscured, only the skill allocation is visible. Is this fair to the original players on Server 5 who are now subjected to these unfair attacks every single day? Do you really think something like this is appropriate for Server 5? So, what is our member supposed to do?
What should I tell him?This member is one of your most loyal members since the beginning of KF. He's been there from the start, and this is how you thank him? And what do you think? Will he be able to reach an average skill level of around 400 in about 2 to 3 weeks to be competitive, or will he need one to two years for that? Roughly the same level as the transfer accounts already have? |
|
JDA
|
Posted March 12, 2026, 8:45 p.m.
Thank you, Nimoe, for this beautiful post! ❤️❤️❤️☺️☺️✌️✌️✌️✌️ You've thus confirmed your true intentions; I quote your words: Let's remember these words. Everyone knows that this is exactly your goal. You're trying to force CRATR to delete the accounts of your political opponents through aggression, blackmail, and threats. I find this extremely disgusting, and certainly dishonorable. Unfortunately, it's really your only weapon. Let me remind you that on INT 7 (there were no transfers), and you're losing ALL wars to us. Once again: YOU ARE LOSING ALL WARS AT INT 7. Your actions are detrimental to the entire KF community. You're discouraging CRATR from making any changes to this game. Therefore, everyone loses. I don't know if I should address your posts substantively, as your attitude demonstrates a profound ignorance of other views. Therefore, there's no point in discussing them with you. You propose absurd criteria for evaluating transferred accounts, which are in no way useful. What significance does the account creation date have? Some created accounts in 2007 (almost 20 years ago) and are level 1, while others created them in 2024 and are already almost level 200. The phrase "accounts 15 years older" only serves to manipulate public opinion. In other words, you're appealing solely to emotions, not facts. This also applies to comparing knights solely based on level and stats. In this game, some players deliberately lower their levels, so you can only compare such a player to higher levels. Similarly, statistics can never be added together, because, for example, each durability point above 150 doesn't increase a knight's power, as battles usually end around round 20 (above level 100). Similarly, many two-handed players have high dexterity because they used to play as one-handed. And you're adding all this incorrectly and then criticizing CRATR, who has far more knowledge than you, based on it. You expect CRATR to offer you a protective umbrella even on the old server. I'm sorry, but level 120 and BE at level 20.5 takes less than a year. And INT 5 is already six years old. If someone wanted to build a strong account, they had plenty of time to do so. Posting forum reports that another player attacked you is nothing more than plain whining and hypocrisy. Should I show you reports from INT 7, where you also attack weaker players? On top of that, you've been running a massive spam campaign on the forum for a month and a half. You've written over 100 posts and 500,000 characters. You keep writing about the same thing. I have some sad news for you. You won't win with a torrent of words. The more you write, the more you put yourself in a bad light. That's why, paradoxically, I'm waiting for your next posts and new forum topics about the same thing 😉 |
|
APULUS
|
Posted March 13, 2026, 5:55 p.m.
I opened a ticket about a month ago against that guy who started slandering and insulting me and has now moved on to insulting Nimoe, but I haven't received any response yet. |
|
Danyy
|
Posted March 16, 2026, 4:06 p.m.
ERRO 500 ERROR 500 |
|
Slach
|
Posted March 16, 2026, 4:28 p.m.
Edited by cvd March 20, 2026, 11:24 a.m.
Dany, here: |
|
Page:
1
You need to login to add a post.
|
|---|
Well it was a month since the last thread was opened askin for some clarification why it occured, and other than CRATR closing the previous thread, there has been no response at all.
We've been told that all the language forums are monitored frequently and every-one at CRATR reads them. And so if that's true, that speaks volumes....